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Simple man who likes to spend time researching the blockchain and attempting to understand the crypto-space.

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@kidasnothere @ryanswalters73

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The saddest thing about the Mormon cult (which is like Scientology) ... Pride. So many members are smug about their church. They've been told they are the only true church in the world, and that everyone else is false. A better approach would be to try and act like the Bereans in Acts 17:11. Search the scriptures. Don't rely on just your Mormon Bible commentary embedded in your biased Deseret Book bible.

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@Maximus762399 Agreed. There is a mosque in Jordan called the Mosque of Jesus. That doesn’t make Muslims Christian.

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To all the Mormons out there, do you accept Christian denominations to be Christian? Are they believing a true message from God? If not, why would you want to be called Christian if you believe all Christian faiths to be false?

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@SladeTheGuy @GuyInco15542744 Sad post. I tend to agree with Augustine. In essentials unity.
In non-essentials liberty.
And in everything else agape.

I believe Jesus is my savior and no man comes to the Father but by him. I don’t dance with snakes out of faith, but I don’t judge those that do.

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I agree that anyone who places their faith in Jesus Christ is a Christian. But the claim that one church has “the fullness of the truth” is a much bigger claim than simply teaching faith in Christ.

If possessing the “fullness of the truth” is the standard, then a church’s teachings should consistently align with God’s truth. How do you reconcile that claim with major doctrinal reversals throughout LDS history? For example, for over a century Black members were denied the priesthood and temple ordinances, and that policy was taught and defended by church leaders as God’s will. Later it was reversed. If the earlier teaching was true, why was it changed? If it was false, how could a church that taught it for generations claim to possess the fullness of the truth during that time?

Every church has made mistakes, but claiming exclusive possession of the fullness of the truth invites scrutiny when significant teachings have been abandoned or reversed. Doesn’t that suggest the church is still seeking truth rather than already possessing its fullness?

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@KeithManleyjr @ryanswalters73 Tell me what I got wrong.

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I don’t care about that. I just want to be there for the lost Mormon who realizes he or she has been duped their whole life..and I can help them realize they are not alone. There is recovery from Mormonism 😊 I am so thankful I left the Mormon church. I was shunned and lost a lot of friends, but knowing I didn’t have to be perfect, Jesus met me right where I was…true grace. Most beautiful day of my life.

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@BYUProvo @ryanswalters73 You don’t have to go to church to recognize a weak argument. Unfortunately, you also don’t have to have one to throw insults. If you have an actual counterpoint, make it. Otherwise you’re just announcing that you dislike the subject, not refuting it.

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@GuyInco15542744 Which Christian faiths are considered equally true compared to the LDS? Do you not believe all other faiths besides LDS are false? Don’t lie…it is not becoming.

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@Lovemyproxy

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Conduct a poll. You’ll find active Mormons don’t read outside sources as they are encouraged to read the canonical scriptures, and then the recommended texts (J the C, M W & a Wonder etc.) They are discouraged from reading sources that may lead them to question their brainwashing.

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Be honest. Do General Authorities encourage you to read “anti-Mormon” literature? Or do they encourage you to avoid it? I drank the kool-aid for 20+ years and avoided alternative thought because it was shunned in the church. Are you telling me it was not shunned and that I imagined it?

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The irony here is remarkable. You claim every anti-Mormon book says the same thing, yet you never stop to ask why the same criticisms keep appearing. Independent critics arriving at the same conclusions isn’t evidence of weakness, it’s often evidence that the underlying problems are real.

You dismiss critics as “mindless thoughtless hacks,” but that’s not an argument. It’s an insult substituted for evidence. If the criticisms are wrong, demonstrate where they’re wrong. Show the factual errors. Explain why the historical issues surrounding polygamy, the Book of Abraham, First Vision accounts, priesthood restrictions, or anachronisms in the Book of Mormon have been misunderstood.

Instead, you’re boasting that you’ve read “every anti-Mormon book” while responding with the intellectual equivalent of “everyone who disagrees with me is stupid.”

The fact that many critics raise similar concerns doesn’t prove they’re unoriginal. It may simply mean Joseph Smith left behind the same historical record for everyone to examine.

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@nasamomdele @GuyInco15542744 @EvidenceOfFaith

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You’re arguing against something I never said.

I didn’t say being an AP made me more credible. I said it showed I wasn’t a casual believer.

Those are different things.

A casual believer doesn’t spend two years as a full-time missionary and get called as an AP. That doesn’t make me right, and it doesn’t make my conclusions true by itself. It simply demonstrates that I was deeply invested in the church and its truth claims.

In fact, if you believe callings don’t make someone more credible, then you should stop focusing on the AP part altogether. The relevant point is that a fully committed missionary can sincerely examine the evidence and still conclude the church isn’t what it claims to be.

You’ve spent three replies talking about my calling and zero replies addressing why so many returned missionaries leave.