@brownsugaaaa3 If you dated a man & he did everything right, & was the perfect man to you & your standards, but he never had sex with you (let’s say even if you get married nothing changes) how long would it take you to leave him
@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist I don’t think it’s less realistic than a society with no distinction between men and women. But maybe you’re right. We’d just have to ignore all the biological differences
@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist My argument is that positive traits don’t stop being an expectation when they’re not reflected by reality. We teach kids to be honest & share, when in reality adults are greedy & lie. Doesn’t mean we stop teaching kids those things or expecting that of people
@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist So you’re saying masculinity should be defined by gendered violence? How would you raise male children? What positive traits would you teach them relating to their gender identity. Common decency doesn’t count. Or should there be no distinction between men & women in society?
@DerangedEA@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist you guys are arguing the same thing. Positive traits don’t stop being an expectation when they’re not reflected by reality. We teach kids to be honest & share, when in reality adults are greedy & lie. Doesn’t mean we stop teaching kids those things or expecting that of people
@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist …that doesn’t change that those qualities are the expectations of traditional masculinity. Unless you’re arguing that rape, murder, & abuse should be the expectation because it’s all men do. Why do y’all’s wokeness always revert to gender essentialism?
@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist …that doesn’t change that those qualities are the expectations of traditional masculinity. Unless you’re arguing that rape, murder, & abuse should be the expectation because it’s all men do. Why do y’all’s wokeness always revert to gender essentialism?
@bxlbobaggins@incelete@Co_Codey24@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist In relationships sure, but rarely on first dates which is obviously what I was talking about. Some girls propose to men too, I wonder why you didn’t pretend like that was common?
The point is some gender roles are just accepted as the norm now & upheld by both men & women.
@incelete@Co_Codey24@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist The problem is they’ll never unlearn the parts of the patriarchy that benefit them, & neither will men. Both sides want their cake & eat it too. Ask a woke “abolish the patriarchy” woman if she’d ever propose to a man or ask a guy on a date, plan the date, & pay for the date
@lucifersbsf@ConvosInACafe@misanderist I think she’s referring to how men are expected to have the qualities of a natural leader, provider, and protector in a traditional heterosexual relationship
@HXH_NGL@venturelychnis You’re an idiot, she could be mixed with any of those races/ethnicities which will show her in those categories, or she could have not specified her race at all which also would show her to everyone.
@woofbarkmeow04@Spankyspanki Asexuality is defined everywhere by a total lack of sexual attraction to others. If you get horny and have sex, you are a SEXUAL being. Unless she had sex with NO attraction or arousal whatsoever, she’s not truly asexual, but probably just didn’t enjoy it