anthony

achieving escape velocity | tokenizing ...

[James Prestwich @_prestwich]

some concerns I have based on recent Claude experiences:

- if you don't have taste, Claude may make it harder to develop it
- collaborating between several high-agency developers is now very very hard

[anthony @roguelite]

@Rob_Al_Ghul @noble_xyz @tempo get in here lil shid @zhygis

[anthony @roguelite]

@tempo returning 404

https://t.co/M5IunCU3xy helps, but I would love to read more on this

[Dougie @DougieDeLuca]

really enjoyed this read, the article does a great job of describing society's gravitation towards high-agency, risk-on behavior as the career ladder becomes less and less rewarding.

it's something I'm seeing everywhere now and it's not just what's commonly referred to as "gambling."

I'm seeing careers unbundle and starting to resemble a self-managed portfolio which involves a mix of: salary + contract work + small internet business + investments/trades wherever someone believes they have edge.

- it's not everyone's a "trader," it's more people trade.
- it's not everyone's an "entrepreneur", it's more people run their own businesses
- etc

while the expression varies, it boils down to the same mentality the article's describing.

how 20 year olds today and even more so in 10 years approach starting their careers will look foreign to someone who started theirs 30 years ago

[sysls @systematicls]

https://t.co/FQe5bCBqW1

[Odysseus | phylax.systems @odysseas_eth]

it seems to me that forced inclusion/exit is dangerously close to being decentralization theatre.

sure it exists; unclear if it actually benefits any real use-case that users care about. Forced Inclusion is easy to do, but unclear of the actual benefit. Forced Exit is clearly beneficial, but complicated for the average user to actually do (even for me lol)

e.g if the market is melting, i want to take my funds out **now**.

to that end, it seems to me that the only real benefit of a rollup is:

1. using eth as the base-layer for trust-minimized communication across rollups (e.g. superchain, prividiums, etc.)
2. having access to eth's state and being able to compose with it. @signetsh is clearly the leader in that, with @zksync prividiums a not-that-close second

Centralized Rollups are here to stay and they can offer a superb (imho) tradeoff between security & simplicity, while also offering a plethora of customizations (@OPLabsPBC is leading here w/ customized block builders)

We need to viciously work on making the rollup use-case undisputable. Tempo should be a wakeup call.

We need rollups to be:
1. easy to customize
2. easy to spin up
3. clearly performant
4. offer practical inheritance of Ethereum's security (meaning it's trivial to force exit)

[joseph.eth @josephdelong]

Your existence in this industry is on an as needed basis.

I am tired of reading entitled tweets authored by bozos who didn’t make it after 4-8 years of just existing. Or tweets of how unfair the industry is to left handed bisexual werewolves.

You are competing with the most intelligent motivated people on earth in the most pvp industry in existence.

If intelligence, hard work, and time in the industry were the recipe for success @_prestwich would be the emperor of the multiverse .

After 8 years of full time employment and 11 protocols launched. I still have not seen financial success. Please shut up, no one is listening.

[James Prestwich @_prestwich]

run-ahead sequencing is frequently misunderstood, even by devs that work on it!

The transaction does not /ever/ need to be posted to DA at all in order to be final. Sequencer txns are final as long as the sequencer doesn't equivocate

[anthony @roguelite]

@zhygis has anyone hooked up a receipt printer yet?
fun way to commemorate the testnet launch

[anthony @roguelite]

@gakonst very neat, the receipts are clean
taking notes

[anthony @roguelite]

> users shouldn't feel like they're leaving ethereum

traditional rollups are just separate chains
@signetsh is the first rollup to extend ethereum

while fast async interop is neat, rethinking rollups is uncomplicated and we've done it

[joshrudolf.eth @rudolf6_]

@AmMuroch @ComposeNetwork agree for sure, users shouldnt feel like they are leaving Ethereum when they move across chains.. but not sure there is cldear evidence that we cant get there with fast async interop? (not to say we shouldnt continue r&d on things like based rollups etc)

[anthony @roguelite]

@tkstanczak I'd like to think we're part of the non-zero crowd
h/t @init4tech @signetsh

[anthony @roguelite]

@_prestwich isn’t ethereum the one and true super chain?

[𝖆𝖓𝖓𝖆 @annascarroll]

happy "i accidentally killed it" day to all those who celebrate

[anthony @roguelite]

join our merry band of misfits
we're init4 the tech

[Swanny ( 🦢/ 🎀 ) @Swanny14]

still looking to hire an infra engineer to come work with me on @signetsh. Job posting link is here https://t.co/NnZbF73Ghp

[anthony @roguelite]

consider conditional cross-chain transactions: if a transaction doesn’t land as intended, you can hedge within the same block

atomic cross-chain host + rollup bundles
complex multi-leg strategies

think bigger

[init4 tech @init4tech]

we're literally init4 the tech

[anthony @roguelite]

@RyanSAdams wait until you hear how its possible to truly scale ethereum with @signetsh

if you only have 20~ mins
> start @ 18:45
> finish after @ 39:44
https://t.co/JJGVAqTDLQ

and just imagine if there was a rollup that allowed you to make ethereum transactions in the same-block

[apriori @apriori0x]

A Rollup that *Actually* Scales Ethereum

In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with @_prestwich of @init4tech @signetsh. This episode is a masterclass on rollups.

In this episode we discuss:
- What is a rollup?
- History of rollups
- @signetsh from first principles
- Conditional Transactions
- Application Controlled Execution
- (Re)Based Rollups

Timestamps

0:00 - Build a rollup in a completely different way
3:14 - What is a rollup?
6:17 - History of rollups
9:57 - Plasmas
14:34 - Minimum viable merged consensus
18:45 - Signet from first principles
21:27 - No proofs
23:01 - Conditional Transactions
27:42 - Instant bridging
31:47 - App Controlled Execution (ACE)
37:45 - Third party native issuance
39:44 - A rollup that actually scales Ethereum
41:16 - Sequencing and block building
45:33 - More Builders than Ethereum
48:08 - Finding the right partners
53:45 - Benefits of app chain + general purpose chain
56:03 - (Re)Based Rollups
1:00:04 - Unexplored design space for rollups
1:03:41 - Mistakes building products on Ethereum
1:07:39 - Making developer tools
1:11:37 - Bitcoin repeating history

[Cem | Sovereign @cemozer_]

is there an l2beat type product for vaults?