Do you all remember how I was saying I won't talk about it anymore? Yeah, so I lied.
Cause I actually looked up real court cases and also wanted to talk about that Chinese producer's analysis properly.
So here is my defense case hjhjhj
The MIDI & Music Theory Breakdown
The DAW pitch overlay comparing the choruses of "Micheo Micheo" and "HANDO-CHOGUA" does show some shared scale-degree patterns which is completely standard for the genre.
BUT the tracks are literally in different keys C\#m vs Dm,
different tempos (75 vs 70 BPM),
and have entirely different chord progressions:
Micheo Micheo:C\#m--F\#m--B--E--G\#
HANDO-CHOGUA:Dm--C--F--Gm--A
Both tracks lean into classic trot/semi-trot tropes built on the Yonanuki pentatonic scale a 5-note scale (no 4th or 7th degrees) that basically rules Korean trot and Japanese enka.
Ethnomusicologist Christine Yano actually found that 27 out of 28 enka melodies she analyzed used this exact scale.
When two songs share a sub-genre, a fast tempo, and a tiny pool of just 5 notes, having some melodic overlap isn't plagiarism it’s basic math.
But isn't overlap still a lot though?
Here's the thing: courts don't just calculate a "raw overlap percentage" to decide copyright infringement. That's not how music law works. Three major US court rulings make this super clear:
Gray v. Hudson (9th Cir. 2022) — Katy Perry’s "Dark Horse" case: The court found that even though the disputed repeat pattern shared minor scale notes and a similar rhythm, basic minor scales and common chord progressions belong to the public domain. Sharing them isn't infringement.
Structured Asset Sales v. Sheeran (2d Cir. 2024) — Ed Sheeran’s "Thinking Out Loud" case: The court used a "numerosity" test since that specific 4-chord progression had already appeared in at least 8 older songs, no single artist could claim ownership over it. Sheeran won.
Skidmore v. Led Zeppelin (9th Cir. 2020) — The "Stairway to Heaven" case:Even with five separate overlapping musical elements, the jury ruled NO infringement because those elements were just standard, unoriginal musical building blocks, not a unique original creation.
Korean Precedent: Johnny Only v. Pinkfong Co. (Korean Supreme Court, Aug 2025) — the court dismissed a plagiarism claim over "Baby Shark," ruling that basing a song on a pre-existing/public-domain folk melody doesn't grant exclusive ownership over that shared source material, and found no substantial similarity between the two derivative versions.
The Takeaway
The pattern across all these cases is simple: courts look for specific creative expression, not just shared building blocks. A shared scale, standard genre tropes, and common chord structures belong to everyone.
The exact same logic applies to pentatonic trot overlap in different keys. You can't copyright a 100-year-old 5-note scale.
Sources for anyone who actually wants to read:
1. Gray v. Hudson, 28 F.4th 87 (9th Cir. 2022) — https://t.co/S5s6eqmAUE
2. Structured Asset Sales, LLC v. Sheeran, 120 F.4th 1066 (2d Cir. 2024)
3. Skidmore v. Led Zeppelin, 952 F.3d 1051 (9th Cir. 2020) — https://t.co/tM7cJ6w7Lj
4. Brooklyn Sports & Entertainment Law Blog, "The Fine Line Between Inspiration and Infringement" (Mar 2025)
5. Christine Yano, *Tears of Longing: Nostalgia and the Nation in Japanese Popular Song* (Harvard University Asia Center, 2002)
6. Wood Law Offices, "Music Copyright: Covers, Samples & Infringement
7. 한국일보 (Hankook Ilbo), "상어가족 저작권 소송 대법원 최종 승소, 핑크퐁 '베이비 샤크' 표절 아냐" — https://t.co/NVG1jQZyPV
🎙️ but honestly, seventeen members really have so many good stories. i have friends who are close with seventeen and they tell me that they’re super loyal and kind
🎙️ they're such a big artist and you might expect them to act a certain way but i heard they don't have a single trace of that
👤they’re all just very down to earth and they are genuine people
👤 For a while, SVT was very busy, and first of all, they were not in Korea. But they still had to make an album and communicate with each other in a hurry, so in a slightly rougher way, there was no time for "arguing."
👤 So at one one time, a few years ago when they were in Southeast Asia, I specially flew to Southeast Asia to argue with them.
👤 If you watch SVT's documentary, there will be a scene where we are sitting in a hotel, surrounded by a circle, looking like we are seriously discussing, but in fact, I was the one who ran to argue with them. That is, we had to talk about many topics like "what are we thinking now? What do we want?" But at a certain stage, because there was really no time to argue properly, I directly ran to find them. I think this is really very important. Because in the end, the people who understand the album, the song, the lyrics, and everything else the most must be the artists themselves.
👤 To achieve this, one must get involved in their sweat and traces. This is extremely important at any time... I have always thought this way.
Forever thankful we have Bumzu hyung to grow up with them and being there with them through the different phase in their journey as an idol🥺🥺