Sol

35+ || T2D GNC Butch on Nan || Bike Commuter 🚲

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

What's the time frame you stop being a trans masc and become a trans man? Year 2? 3?

[mechEngi @EngiNearMyLimit]

There is a difference between a butch who takes a little bit of T on the side to become androgynous and maybe gets top surgery too (lowkey pushing it tho) and someone who is physically indistinguishable from a transsexual man.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

@jeckunty @homufaeri Eeeh both yes and no. It shouldn't be seen as "problematic" as the political weight of these words don't hold the same water anymore, and a good chunk of lesbians can't even name the material aspect that made it political.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Genuinely its their wording that's causing the issue. This def sounds more like comphet but saying she was desperate for sex and couldn't pull women was a HORRENDOUS thing to say as a lesbian.

[rat @gayw33d]

having this level of tantrum because people are telling you lesbians don’t have sex with men even if they’re desperate is………..::: 😭😭😭😭

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

@An_Aria_Blooms I just feel like it a bit... much.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

I dislike the nonmen definition, I just say exclusively sapphic.

[Freddy Fazbear @FeddyLesbear]

lesbian is for women and nonbinary, im a proud lesbian 💗

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Bi dykes and bikes are just... bi women. Not bi lesbians. Yall really desperate to say something the group makes 0 mention and then get upset when asked for proof: figured it's just there isn't any.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Im asking for proof that lesbian avengers supports bi lesbians and not just bi dykes which would be just bi sapphics. Clearly, fact if the matter is that such proof doesn't exist I guess.

[andie @QueerHercules]

Literally look up Lesbian Avengers and even Wikipedia gives the info of when they formed.

If you want me to spoon feed it to you then pay me because labor ain’t cheap in this economy $qhwriter

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

...yeah nooo. This isnt one of those nuanced situations. There is no validation seeking just wanting sex regardless if you like the person or not.... sometimes I do think some of us are too freaked out.

[Eve ⚢ @tinglespoon]

i think there are several reasons why people can have sex and i have had times in which ive had sex with men purely because i was desperate for sex and unable to pull women and i dont think that makes me any less of a lesbian because i am not into them at all

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Op is also a predatory person for doing this shit.

[yelena ' 19 version @siaofb]

tem um butch que claramente age como um predador com femmes mas me calarei sobre o assunto

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Surrogacy is evil idc if you want kids there has to be another option.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

A lesbian seeking validation isn't a actual want. We're compromising ourselves and true desires to meet societal pressures and expectations. Are we not lesbians anymore bc of it? No. But to posit this demand from lesbian as the same sex we'd have with women is wrong.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Im one of those lesbian that gets harassed over this but the point op is making is 100% true. The nuance here is that lesbians sometimes sleep woth men for validation but sex is general seen as mutual want.

[Ash @Ashbw854]

Y’all are very mean to other lesbians who don’t match your behaviour 1:1. Like, ew. Furthermore, she was talking about herself. And it’s also been written about, by lesbians themselves. It’s such a small group that ultimately it doesn’t matter becuz them existing doesn’t hurt u.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

I think ultimately Im just not a believer in "sexuality is not a behavior, its attraction." Bc behavior is seldome just a... idk, concept uniquely existing in a vacuum with 0% BEARING on desire, but maybe thats just me.

And again, super happy my notifs are quiet lol.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Post it? Bc Im not finding it. Im looking for bi lesbians here. Not bi dyke.

[andie @QueerHercules]

They literally created the Dyke March and actively accept and hype all lesbians including the bykes / bi lesbians.
But as always, when encountering elder lesbians who accept us you have to try and delegitimize it because you can’t handle that you’re the small minded one.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

No. We don't want sex with men. We dont was relationships with men. If lesbians did, then that isn't lesbian. Many of us sleep with men for validation, but that is not a want. Is a survival mechanism and this rhetoric is just no... Ur disguising survival mech as consent.

[✩₊˚.Meadow🜡⚨☿⚧️ ⚝⨺⃝ Thon/Thons/It/Its ⁺₊✧ @Qyilldrisstessa]

@sad_sapphist Yes lesbians can have sex without being men IF THEY WANT TO. Consent is important and I never said it wasn’t. I never dropped the main point. The main point i was making is that people can have sex without attraction.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

@Qyilldrisstessa A mentality rapists can work with and do/have, esp against lesbians and aces. "Sleep with me, you dont have to like me to enjoy, just try it." Don't drop the main point here with it being abt lesbians and sex with men.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Read the thread. The topic is about lesbians having sex with men. Im a sex repulsed ace lesbian. If, you as a lesbian, do not like men, but have sex with them, that is traumatic. Don't try to hide the actual subject here which is about lesbians, not ace ppl as a whole.

[a normal person @anabanosoto]

@sad_sapphist why are you calling asexual people who have sex rapists what the fuck is wrong with you

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Casual sex doesnt strictly mean one night stands. Lol even cishets struggle with the notionnof casual sex bc feelings get involved.

[✩₊˚.Meadow🜡⚨☿⚧️ ⚝⨺⃝ Thon/Thons/It/Its ⁺₊✧ @Qyilldrisstessa]

@sad_sapphist Casual sex (one knight stands) is not a bonding activity, it’s often done solely for pleasure.

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

Cool, but the topic is about lesbians and sex with men (who they are not attracted to). Lesbians would never willingly consent to sex with men and enjoy it. The idea that this is acceptable is going to be used most positively by men.

[mars / sascha @loveasruin]

@sad_sapphist no, bc you can be raped by someone you are attracted to. consent and attraction are two separate things. you can consent without attraction, and attraction doesn't mean consent

[Sol @sad_sapphist]

I would argue that's a bonding activity lol.

[✩₊˚.Meadow🜡⚨☿⚧️ ⚝⨺⃝ Thon/Thons/It/Its ⁺₊✧ @Qyilldrisstessa]

@sad_sapphist I’m asexual, I enjoy sex with my girlfriend. That doesn’t make me a fucking rapist. Like tf?

Casual sex isn’t a bonding activity either. Sex is for mutual pleasure sometimes.