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[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

hey guys john skullman here. Stream shall be soon we shall be finishing persona I swear it. https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV

[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

lives now we ending persona and morganas reign against our wanting to spend time outside at night
https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

I lied im joining the relm tommrow

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

Screw fortnights or other games get me in vampire survivors

[Vampire Survivors | Vampire Crawlers 🧛 @poncle_vampire]

Introducing Malice Bloodmoon, The Ruthless Matron of the Bloodmoon Clan 🩸

her starting weapon is the painful Scarlet Needle which pins enemies in place 🪡

learn more about this smiling, power hungry schemer in our newest Legacy of the Bloodmoon character spotlight 😈

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

This is fucking sad and patheic @Twitch if this is something you NEED to have at least let people CHOOSE to feed into it. I am a horrible flesh entity that exists to bring ruin to humanity and yet I understand consent better than you

[Ashni @ashnichrist]

Twitch will use your streams to train AI.

@zachbussey leaked this info. He's a great resource for streaming news.

My role is to help you understand what news actually matters, and what it means for you / the industry.

So here's what you need to know:

Your stream data is incredibly valuable.

Livestream data is some of the most valuable for training AI.

- It's multimodal (video, audio, text chat) which is very in-demand in the data market
- It's social data. Real people interacting with each other teaches models to engage socially and have personalities (ai is very bad at this rn)
- It's unscripted. The same reason Reddit data is so valuable: it's real
- There is a lot of it. Millions of streamers, billions of hours of data

Here's what Twitch will (probably) use this data for.

None of this is confirmed, but we can make assumptions.

1. Generic foundation model training. This is boring & low stakes, these already exist and don't really hurt you

2. Livestream-specific products like auto-highlights / clips, moderation, streamer co-pilot tools, etc. They want to keep streamers & not make y'all use other tools in this category

3. But the worst one... they could use this to create AI streamers.

You're probably thinking "they can't do this! I own my content."

The unfortunate reality is....

Twitch vs. Kick vs. YouTube ToS & Your Rights

You do not own the rights to your content on Twitch. They can sell your data to whoever they want and you agree to this by using the platform.

But there is a silver lining: their rights are non-exclusive and you keep copyright.

YouTube has the best platform rights for creators. You retain all ownership, their license is limited to just running their platform, AND they already have AI as *opt-in*.

Kick is the worst... specifically the Kick Partner Program. Kick has a permanent, exclusive, sub-licensable buyout. You lose the right to license elsewhere the moment you monetize.

So what's the actual problem for streamers?

When platforms own the ability to sub-license your data, they can sell it to other companies and use it however they want.

Twitch and Kick both have this ability. YouTube does not.

If you stream on Kick or YouTube, you could end up as unpaid Research & Development for an AI that replaces you.

There is precedent...

The content rights argument is playing out across many industries.

- SAG-AFTRA went on strike in 2023 and won
- Reddit makes ~$130M /yr from Google & OpenAI. Redditors receive none of it
- Federal legistlation battles are happening, like the No Fakes Act

And many more.

Why Twitch Might Grant Opt-In

If you don't like AI, you probably would love to know that Twitch has potential to grant an opt-in feature similar to YouTube's

Amazon has a large team of very talented lawyers. Litigation is very expensive, especially in a completely new category. Having opt-in consent could prevent a lot of headaches for their (expensive af) legal team.

Also, YouTube already has this feature. If Twitch rolls out a forced default while its biggest competitor lets creators choose, Twitch looks anti-creator by direct comparison & loses users

How to Make Money From Your Own Data

You want to be paid for your data, not these big companies.

That's why it's crucial to maintain the ability to sub-license your content (which KPP does NOT allow, Twitch & YouTube are safe)

In order to make money from your data, you need to join an aggregator platform. These platforms pool users together to sell and monetize their data.

It's going to happen anyway. You might as well be the beneficiary of it.

Lmk if you want platform recommendations.

What You Should Do Now

1. Demand an opt-in toggle like YouTube. Twitch has caved to pressure before

2. Keep copies of all your VODS in case you want to license them someday. This will be a new revenue line for streamers over the next few yrs

3. If you really hate this, stream on YouTube

4. If you are a Kick Partner, consider leaving the platform or renegotiating your contract

The simple conclusion is...

The move isn't to rage against AI or roll over for platforms

Your move should be to force Twitch to say what they're building and demand the right to choose

Protect your rights and force consent, then you decide whether to license your data for money or withhold it entirely

Good luck everyone.

[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

Woah we be double dipping stream? https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV
#firstplaythrough #Persona5TheRoyal #videogames #pngtuber #videogames

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

@skullmantweets @eldritchhousegs Yeah that is how I sleep sometimes (not that you need to know that)

[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

persona the 5 video games we be doing stuff what spefically? idk go watch https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV #firstplaythrough #Persona5TheRoyal #videogames #streaming #skeletontuber #skeleton

[CarbonMoth @fol463]

Toothy Tuesday

[Nessi💜🖤 @nessimonstar]

You guuuyyyssss it's almost Halloween!!!
I had a shoot of my clown OC Lebäm yesterday and I cannot wait to share more 😈
📸 : @ groovecityproductions on Insta

[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV i'm live playing persona the fifth. You should come watch it would be like cool or something

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

Watch my foolish arch rival.

[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV more dunc (death unc) and maybe some persona idk #streaming #livenow #videogames

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

@MechaMattZERO When your a mattillionare dont forget about us

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

@ErlomastITCV I also like being donated skin

[skullmantweeting @skullmantweets]

https://t.co/q3CgpGtqIV uncle death please be cool I am but a silly billy in this world of serious sues. #videogame #letitdie #streamer #twitch #skeleton #vibes #pridemonth

[👽 Audrameda Galaxy 🛸 @itsaaudraw]

the smiling dead? the evil friends? #evildead #smilingfriends

[Barrett 🩸VT @b_e_r_r_y_tweet]

hello hello im barrett, vtubing today from hyrule. hope u have a great day :] #zelda #vtuber #envtuber #twitch https://t.co/Qy8o5E5NWE

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

@skullmantweets I would love to participate. Delivering agony upon souls is a lovley activity

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

This "unknown" and I shall join forces to ensure this month dedicated to pride lasts forever.

[The Unknown @Unknown_Chapter]

Not on my.... watch...

[fleshmantweets @scornofall]

@themeatsaint Cause its a reminder he cares so much