To answer your question where do I think my Jesus comes from I will answer you. My Jesus is the Jehovah of the Old Testament and the Jesus Christ of the New Testament. He is the God of Israel, the Only Begotten Son of the Father, the Creator, the Messiah, the Savior of the world, who was crucified and resurrected. He is part of The Godhead, fully divine while being subordinate to the Father as He taught throughout the New Testament. The Book of Mormon and other LDS scripture testify of that same Jesus. The question isn’t where my Jesus came from. The question is why your creedal definition should override the biblical one.
@tnsampson2@Primary_Pianist My Jesus is Biblical. Yours is creedal. Trinitarianism is not biblical. Even biblical scholars have concluded it’s a teaching of 3rd/4th century mingled Greek metaphysics.
@storiesOfMormon I just find it extremely sad to go to a lesser Jesus that the creeds profess toan immaterial, timeless, impassible, and incomprehensible divine essence. I can only conclude he never really knew or understood what LDS teaches. Most that leave the faith go agnostic
Yes. Your definition of Jesus is creedal. 3 in 1, 1 in substance unbiblical blasphemy, twisted theology was heavily influenced by Greek metaphysics, particularly Neoplatonism. Concepts like an immaterial, timeless, impassible, and incomprehensible divine essence are all
Blasphemous ideas that you hold dear were all developed by early Christian theologians trying to explain God using the philosophical framework of their Greeks. That is your Jesus.
Congrats your son returning home from his mission. My son also just returned a few days ago. Whst mission did your son serve in Guatemala? I ask because that is where I served my mission some 30 years ago! Today my mission areas touch 3 different current missions in Guatemala, City Central, Antigua and Reu missions.
It’s just funny cas your God is not worthy of my worship at all. It’s just so beneath and incomplete. I can never see myself leaving my faith, my testimony is beyond sure, but if I did I could never go to the creedal Jesus. There is a reason why many that leave the LDS faith turn agnostic. It makes total sense once you have the restored truth. Your creedal God makes no sense!
Your response caused me pause. I’m all for good faith conversations but I just don’t have the energy or time for anything toxic.
How familiar are you with the translation claims of The Book of Mormon? What is it that you understand how Joseph Smith put forth the Book of Mormon? I guess we can start there. I don’t want to assume anything if we are going to discuss in good faith.
@KonradIMasovia@jaredadairbell And actually YOU are the one that made the claim Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon. I don’t believe you can back that claim. Many have tried; all have failed.
@vajolleratzii@MonogamistJoe Nothing in the Bible contradicts “Mormonism”. It does however contract creedal Christianity and many other beliefs held by evangelical Christian’s.
It’s hard. And it’s happening all too often in this generation. I have a wok son who thinks we’re evil and has entirely cut us off. I’m sorry. I find comfort in knowing our Heavenly Father loves him, has a plan and nothing is temporal. The binding covenants we make are eternal.
@Hail_Winter@johnymac1288 Then why do you believe in Trinitarianism? It’s not Biblical. The creedal view of God is heavily influenced by Greek metaphysics, especially Neoplatonism. That’s the Jesus you believe in.
Where does the Bible state “These books present the Scriptures as complete, sufficient, and closed, with explicit warnings against any addition to God’s revealed word.” And also where does it stare in the Bible “The 66 canonical books leave no room for, and explicitly warn against, any additional “testament”? All of the scriptures you posted none of them state either of those 2 things