Saya sangat teringin untuk adakan wacana sesama atheis sceptics atau agnostics. Tiada apa yang perlu ditakutkan jika kita yakin kita mewakili kebenaran.
@ifactoreal Teo, if I rebut ur argument & give my evidence and then u rebut my argument, via online.... So are there any more reasons for us to meet physically since all the debates have been conclude via online? Let's conclude that f2f debate is a no go for you and continue online. OK?
@ifactoreal@therealsunarpu You'll be surprise how open kelantanese, the real islamist kelantanese towards reform agenda, progressiveness. Semua ini adalah kerana ugama, bukan kerana Kelantan, bukan kerana kekampungan, bukan kerana apa apa, hanya se nya kerana ugama. Ugama mengajar kami celik.
@ifactoreal@therealsunarpu ILMU. Umat melayu malas. Malas dalami ilmu, even dalami ilmu ugama mereka sendiri pun malas. Amalan ugama mereka byk mengikut2 secara buta tuli. P/S Datuk saya merupakan seorang tok guru pondok/madrasah dan memelihara anjing........... di KELANTAN
Liberalist tidak semestinya non Muslim. Di Malaysia terdapat ramai sekali liberalist yg berkebetulan menganut ugama islam. Muslim liberalist ini sebenarnya sama sahaja tarafnya dengan non Muslim, cuma berkebetulan shj mereka dilahirkan oleh ibu berugama Islam. Islam baka.
Saya dapati ada banyak sekali persamaan antara Islam dan Liberalism. Muslim dan para liberalist punyai sebab untuk saling hidup aman damai dan sejahtera. Namun sy tak rasa ia mampu dicapai krn kedua2 ideology berkenaan mempunyai ajaran untuk memerintah dan bukan diperintah.
@ifactoreal@therealsunarpu I do agree with u that most Malays doesn't like dogs and that is unjustified, Islamically. Religious dogma sudah dicampuraduk dengan Islamic values wrongly, in this case.
@ifactoreal Can we conclude that u decline my invitation for a f2f debate and would like to continue debating online via X? Can we conclude this issue on f2f debate and continue online?
@kkholimi@lady_bugg11 Hawk, hujjah Stesen bas, kb mall, lrt di kelate ni dah di guna oleh umno kelate sejak berpuluh tahun tp umno tak penah menang.
Hawk betul2 rasa hujjah pembangunan Stesen bas ni boleh menangkan PKR di kelate? Good luck lah bro.
@lady_bugg11 Yanie, umno guna hujjah pembangunan ni dah berpulih tahun tp tak pernah menang. Kalau PKR masih nak guna isu pembangunan (Stesen bas, kb mall, etc), percaya lah, PKR akan melingkup di kelate.
@ifactoreal Teo, can you please call me at least and let's solve this? I dah pening u prefer which one? Please, u have my number. Promise, I will not reveal ur number. There's nothing to be afraid. I'm a very civilised person. Please
.... Bahawa menang dalam arena demokrasi tak semestinya lesen untuk memerintah, malah u kena menang Dan tolak ekstremisme Dan dogma. I say, butuh hang. These liberalists/nationalists, they are changing the goal posts everytime they are cornered.
Islamist dipaksa ikut game nationalist/liberalist spy berpolitik demokrasi Jika ingin memerintah. Makan bersusah payahlah para tok tok guru lebai tubuhkan parti politik. Bila parti politik Islamist ini mula mendapat undi majoriti, maka berbunyilah para nationalist/liberalist...
@SyedAkramin I think PKR (Dan parti2 yg mendakwa diri mereka progresif) obsession towards "tatakelola" is misplaced. Tatakelola/integrity dalam Islam berbeza dengan tatakelola/integrity anutan faham liberalism (the founding phylisophy of the West).
@SyedAkramin In short, competencies in governing ni really, sama aje Roman... Between PKR minister ke, umno minister ke, pas minister ke because we have a largely good civil servants. Stop sounding that PKR ministers (especially ur favorite ones) is bkve average
@SyedAkramin Sy betul2 rasa PKR guys (not only roman, yg lain2 pun sama), live in a bubble. They thought the Madani era has brought in huge transformation into our governance system. Hell, PKR achievement ni (achievement?), kalo compare contributions by umno/BN ministers dulu is nothing.
@SyedAkramin What a joke. Roman, lets be real. Nothings really change from the BN era. The Madani era really reflects difference between being an idealist (ketika era pembangkang dulu) and being a realist in governing. Islah la sangat .
"kita hidup di dunia jangan ikut orang. Kita hidup atas dunia ni dan amik tindakan2 tertentu - kawin, demonstrasi, memangkah undi, kerja, kena tangkap polis, berpolitik, bkn krn kita ikut trend, tp krn kita faham sungguh2 tindakan tersebut" Ustaz Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat
@ifactoreal Dis is going in circle. Let me get this straight. U'll accept my f2f debate invitation if I answer ur question? Promise me that if I answer ur question, u will accept my invitation, can u? If don't, let's don't waste time and continue here je. Can I have a straight fwd answer?