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@yeeye322 @ranareef because it feels nice to many people and people enjoy that closeness and intimacy with their partner, and people find it fun

[M @sellyish]

@_moneya @Hinatabutthole @calxlover69 @ranareef sex is absolutely a form of intimacy lol what

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules i'm sure you think so

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules I most certainly have, 25+ is my age range actually, but again, you don't know me. Perhaps just not everyone agrees, hence me saying agree to disagree.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules You don't know anything about who I have or haven't made friends with, but thank you. Again, we can agree to disagree, identify however you feel suits you best :)

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules I would disagree, as this has been the opinion of the community i've experienced ever since i've been in it, covid or not, not really sure where covid comes into play. But like I said, agree to disagree.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules right...

[M @sellyish]

@QueerHercules @butchbishonen How does saying that someone identifying as a man isn't a lesbian make me transphobic lmao

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen Lesbianism excludes men and so to me, if you identify as a man, you aren't lesbian. I didn't said all nonbinary people HAVE to identify a certain way, nor did I bring up GNC people.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen I don't think of nonbinary people as anything in particular, it's a wide spectrum. Lesbianism is women and some nonbinary people, gay is men and some nonbinary people, it's not one big box. As for physical outside appearance, that would be up to the individual would it not?

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@butchbishonen @QueerHercules I did read what it says. All i'm doing is repeating statements and explanations made by transmasc and enby lesbians, I didn't pull any of this out of my ass. Perhaps take it up with the wider community. But again, i'm not going to agree that lesbians can be attracted to men.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen What are you even saying? If I say that lesbianism excludes men, that means that lesbianism is someone who is NOT a man loving someone who is NOT a man. Non men. I am not forcing anyone into anything, use labels how you please, but I disagree that lesbians are attracted to men.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules I wouldn't consider someone who is FTM to be lesbian if they identify as a man/are a trans man.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen I already said they could be? But lesbians are not attracted to men. Again, this also comes from the nonbinary people and lesbians in my life. But we are just going to have to agree to disagree because I am not going to agree that lesbianism includes attraction to men.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules This doesn't explain anything about the conversation I was having, I never excluded butch women, nonbinary butches or transgender women.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules I never said it excluded enby or multi gendered people lmfao, I said it excludes men. Which it does.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules Right.... queer and excluding men

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules And like I just said, I didn't say they were ALL non-men, I said they can be included. Lesbianism DOES exclude men. Nonbinary people aren't inherently men. This is how i've had it explained to me consistently by non-binary people/lesbjans both in my life and online.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules Interesting how you came at me in anger and tried to insult me instead of just having a conversation with me about the topic.

[M @sellyish]

@butchbishonen @QueerHercules I didn't say anything about who specifically identifies as what... i'm saying nonbinary people are included in lesbianism because lesbianism is non men loving non men, and nonbinary people can fit that category. I'm not really sure what fight you're trying to pick with me here.