Joe Whelan

40 years in the Military/Police. Proud of my service. I fight for what I think is right not following the crowd. I try & explain why things happen in real life.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @MarshallJarman @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond You also appear confused. The doctors had suspected Letby & were trying to understand what was happening long before the grievance process. That isn’t part of the investigation.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @MarshallJarman @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond All the doctors tried to reconcile their concerns with the facts of cases. It’s what professionals do.

But they played no role in the investigation apart from being witnesses. If you knew how investigations work you’d understand that. It’s not like TV you know.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI Do you realise how stupid that sounds.

A woman is serving 15 whole life sentences & the person running her appeal to the CCRC is doing it as a bit of a hobby so can’t be expected to be on top of the case?

Can you see why many lawyers are concerned?

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @MarshallJarman @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond She has claimed a lot of things that aren’t true. She told the Guardian in October 2024 she couldn’t discuss any details because of confidentiality & there is no evidence she received confidential briefings with any data.

What is your source for her claim she received briefing?

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@MarshallJarman @LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond They did convene such a panel. Thats what the 8 experts used at trial were.

Or did you think it meant they had to sit in a room?

Not only that but the police also had £ separate reviews the hospital had convened.

But you still don’t understand, it’s advice, it’s not mandatory.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @MarshallJarman @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond You actually think a doctor seeking to understand an unexplained collapse is the same as a detective investigating a crime?

He was doing his job as a doctor, just as all the doctors involved were.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@Sunraged @MarshallJarman @Hermelientje2 @LucyLetbyFOI @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond Yet you ascribe emotion to me? You would also be wrong.

The RSS can define the chart as statistics if they ish. But in evidential terms it’s not, it’s evidence of fact and a point to prove for the offence.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@PhilGriff586 @PFM192381 Even AFO’s do tactical refresher (tacrefs) courses every 5 to 10 weeks which also involve shooting. The official requalification shoot is annually. But I’ve never met an officer who shoots only once a year. We also had access to the range off duty.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@James_Treadwell @benshep20 I went to a conference during which we had a presentation on profiling. What struck me was the speakers insistence that profiling should be seen as thematic rather than prescriptive.

This was a really interesting piece which raises lots of things I’d never previously considered.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@DrBrexit Except it wasn’t a PR photo. It was one she posted on her personal social media.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @MarshallJarman @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond The chart only contains criminal incidents because that is what must be proved. Her presence or lack of it at everyday nursing events is utterly irrelevant.

Why is it not a single statistician has ever been able to produce evidence to undermine the conviction?

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@MarshallJarman @LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond Firstly they didn’t.

Secondly the MCIM is a structure not a checklist. An SIO can depart from any of it if he can justify it. It happens in virtually every major investigation.

The SIO fully documents any deviation & no one has seen that document.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI McDonald’s problem is a large number of their theories have already been put forward & rejected. As such that can’t be revisited.

But he is very clear he wants people to contact him in case he ‘missed something’.

Many lawyers find that appalling.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @MarshallJarman @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond The reality is Hutton knows no more about the case than any other member of the public.

The initial approach asked if she could address statistics involving Letby’s presence. But she was never briefed nor asked to produce anything. That was because the team were advised not to.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @MarshallJarman @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond You clearly don’t understand how major incidents are investigated. The doctors didn’t “lead them by their nose”. In fact after the initial meeting they were no more or less than witnesses.

The investigation was driven by standard major incident procedures using MCIM & MIRSAP.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@benshep20 @Courtwatch_Olly @CPMorris1234 Another excellent summary of the gulf between Morris’s claims & the facts.

The courts heard multiple eye-witnesses, doctors & nurses, say baby C wasn’t deteriorating. It seems a very high hurdle to get over to persuade the CoA all of them were wrong.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @MarshallJarman @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond I’ve explained the flaw in their thinking. Gill started it with his conspiracy theory Evans picked cases because Letby was there. It’s unevidenced lunacy but you & others fell for it.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @MarshallJarman @Sunraged @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond This sums up so much of her supporters. The belief that those investigating her were stupid plods who didn’t know what they were doing.

Professional detectives are trained & experienced in this sort of investigation. But you no doubt think you know better.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI @Sunraged @MarshallJarman @Hermelientje2 @HenryTudorStan @Seagreen2707 @nickwniko89 @Oversig58651516 @legalmarkmc @Thirlwall_Inq @RexvsLucyLetby @LetbyWitchHunt @Voice4theDead @drphilhammond There are certainly some. Gill for instance.

He started the claim Evans picked cases based on Letby being there.

[Joe Whelan @sergeantdixie]

@LucyLetbyFOI Because the only thing that will get this back to the CoA is expert medical evidence. And the CCRC aren’t interested in random theories from nobodies on X. McDonald has turned the appeal into a clown show.