@nathantokkiz employees and contractors are legally distinct types of work, contractors have more benefits than employees as they can sign brand contracts directly with the brand. or did you want new jeans’ money to come directly from hybe? about the level of intelligence i’d expect from a m*n
@yuujeanz where do you see me mad at hanni? your dim fandom simply didn’t know that musicians aren’t considered employees at their label. but the fact you think yunjin is a “bsh glazer” likely from believing your tl like a gullible idiot tells me more than enough about your iq level
@kaivore where do you see me celebrating anything you daft cunt, i’m simply stating the common knowledge fact that musicians are not considered the employees of their label in most countries. your fandom really does fail at very basic literary huh
@k_girl_material i agree with you but change like this also can’t happen with one person or group. it would have been much stronger to collude with their fellow artists for change rather backing their ceo as the ceo has different rights to them as artists. but w/e
@k_girl_material ok, that’s not the point of my tweet though so idk what you’re trying to argue. i don’t think it’s fair or ethical but i can’t change that because i’m not an idol or musician. they have to do that themselves that’s what unionisation is for
@cabbaggeelettuc in MANY cases yes? you think the biggest western artists are just sitting around on their asses or what 💀 some of them go on tour for years on end, they promote everywhere all year round… “bus, club, another club” is literally a lady gaga quote
@Ixtulu do you earnestly think that’s not the case in big western industry labels too? they don’t mass produce groups but they’re functioning basically the same giving musicians huge payouts for contracts they become indebted to when they can’t pay it off with album sales and tours
@geierelye so idols rights for me but not for thee then? you understand an unfair workplace in the context of a ceo not greeting them but think another idol would have been allowed to go against their superior’s orders?
@jaychangsguitar do you think most musicians don’t also work 24/7? how much free time do you think they have? for the big musicians they’re also in rehearsals daily or flying somewhere or touring for years on end, for smaller musicians they’re performing every night at a bar or club
@nugusidio yeah what a shame, if only this was their actual case. even with workers rights, one event would not win them a nullified contract, it would get the employee fired at best. so instead they had to focus on advocating for a millionaire ceo to get her job back
@nugusidio yeah and i agree with you, too bad they never expressed issues with their operating schedule in court, only with the fact that they couldn’t claim workplace harassment over a fellow employee being mean to them
@RiziqGuntur i, not idol, can’t do anything to help idol. idol, must organise themselves. idol ceo then go back to blaming other idol for contract issues. idol blame other idol = not useful for idol rights. idol host youtube livestream to demand ceo get job back = not useful for idol rights
@RiziqGuntur since you’re a tokki i understand i have to explain things to you like you’re 5 years old. i do not say, “musicians not employees = good thing”. i say, “we do not “find out” idol not worker, everyone knows they not worker, all big musician worldwide have problem with label”
@sha6133 no they don’t like they famously don’t. taylor swift famously couldn’t even own her own discography despite being the main writer. all musicians get given a payout upon signing a contract that they’re expected to pay back in touring and sales money, they’re not free at all
Daily reminder that if it wasn’t for hanni speaking up we would still have no idea that idols aren’t considered workers in korea, which means that they aren’t protected by standard labor laws