@Angron_DNW_FEmp@shas_kais I dunno if there is one with GW's business model. When you keep having to put out new units and stuff to sell you either end up cramming it all in at the last minute or doing lore retcons so they always had it, which is silly and kinda lazy.
@NONOISE37748127 It’s still so funny to me that the “gatekeep your hobbies” crowd experienced the exact thing they advocated for and have now spent the last two years copeposting about it. They’re just obsessed at this point
@gr1mmas@For_Macragge Yeah I never liked the fucking wolf cavalry. Silly concepts are fine sometimes if it makes for good models but they were too silly in concept and in execution.
@Tribblepoo@puppyheimer@BoyishGirlie If anyone killed D&D it was Hasbro/corporate bullshit, not trans people. They felt like D&D wasn't being properly monetized, turned it into a lifestyle brand and now a subscription service you pay monthly to play. The game itself is barely an afterthought and the art is all AI.
@nekokot_1@BoyishGirlie They found something "close enough" to 40k and hyped it up as a 40k killer, thinking GW would freak out thinking all the fans were leaving them and reverse course, but GW was unfazed and TC stomped that out almost immediately, so they gave up.
@nekokot_1@BoyishGirlie Even IF Trench Crusade was everything these people wanted it to be, actual religious folk would still hate it and consider it blasphemous.
I dunno if it was ever about the game though, I think these people were just hoping they could "scare" GW into catering to them.
@Kharn_300BO@ShindraIMLY@HariSel57511397 Like not only rejecting the core concept and trying to make the game into something it wasn't but being incapable of hiding their own real prejudice or bias on top of all that. Like any sensible community would have said "Please don't, and if you can't get along then leave."
@Kharn_300BO@ShindraIMLY@HariSel57511397 Probably because this group were obvious bad actors who were hoping they could use TC to "scare" GW into reversing course on a bad decision, thinking their customers were all fleeing, and trying to hijack TC from its creators and turn it into THEIR thing at the same time.
@AmericaExpanded@AlexVanSickel@BoyishGirlie Unfortunately though that isn't the case and instead we must endlessly listen to straight-faced arguments about how nothing you do could ever be questionable or wrong when done in the name of fighting objective evil, because that's never excused past or even present atrocities.
@AmericaExpanded@AlexVanSickel@BoyishGirlie I imagine people could also grasp the concept of centuries of war with Hell turning "the good guys" into a mirror of the same monsters they're fighting, committing unthinkable acts and creating their own monsters/losing their own humanity in the process, to Satan's delight.
@RogerTidy@HariSel57511397 "Acts of faith" occurring in game that aren't discernible from magic spells will draw their ire. Unflattering depictions of Christ or "Biblically accurate" angelic entities, etc.
I could be wrong, I dunno. Good models go a long way, but you gotta have the talent for that.
@RogerTidy@HariSel57511397 I mean I still think TC was obviously a hit, but yeah, no one's gonna buy the kind of game these people want.
Conservative Christians historically have never liked tabletop. See the Satanic Panic for example. They would freak out at there being demons in the game at all.
@SedeCatPA@HariSel57511397 I kinda wish someone would honestly. Tired of watching all these dudes arguing they could do it all better but refusing to take their own risks and prove it.
Make better rules. Sculpt better models. Put it on Kickstarter and prove it's the money printer everyone says it is.