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[Charlie Downes @cfdownes_]

Nobody is arguing that the English are an “Aryan master race.” Rees-Mogg is deliberately attacking a position almost nobody holds.

Belonging to a nation is a matter of ancestry and inheritance. It is impossible to "become English," regardless of whether you subscribe to "our values," because Englishness is an inherited ethnic identity.

Just because it comes from multiple sources - Britons, Angles, Saxons, Danes, Normans - does not mean that it does not exist, nor does it mean that anyone from anywhere can simply put it on like a costume.

That is not Nazism; it is a natural, moral, and healthy view that everyone, in all times and places - except White people in the 21st century - has held.

Why must we accept that this view is now beyond the pale? Why, meanwhile, is every other group encouraged to celebrate its identity and organise around its interests? Why can't we do the same?

These are the questions we are asking. If @Jacob_Rees_Mogg's response is to caricature us as Nazis and call our people mongrels, that's up to him. But he shouldn't be surprised if history remembers him as a coward and a traitor.

The game of identity politics is here to stay. The future belongs to those who take their own side and play to win.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @derbil157 @DPJHodges “How can anyone say they are English?” Honestly, have a day off mate.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @derbil157 @DPJHodges I don’t think you are arguing in good faith and it’s quite possible you don’t understand what an ethnicity.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@commontruth_ @OBEhizele @commontruth_ I’ve found a lot of inspiration in the things you post on here. I expect quite a lot of people have. It isn’t pleasant to think/talk about these things often. But we have been forced to. We need to stand strong and clear. You help in that.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @derbil157 @DPJHodges And yet the English people exist. They are a specific ethnic group. With a historically continuous ethnic population with shared ancestry and culture. And some people exist outside of that - For example Indian people.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@spectator Jacob, the world you knew of is dead.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @derbil157 @DPJHodges People are free to assert whatever they wish, that doesn’t necessarily make it true. But how about this “they have at least one English parent.”

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @DPJHodges I read them.

So Sunak is now a “version of Englishness” in some round about way, but not actually English. Because to be English actually IS something. An ethnic group. A people.

No idea way you would think that? Yes apparently non English people can play for the national team

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @DPJHodges Well look it up.

And while you are there look up the ethnicity of his parents, his grandparents, his wife and his kids. And then you have answered your own question. His claims to being English are getting vanishingly smaller all the time.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @DPJHodges Great. Glad we agree Sunak is not ethnically English.

What ethnicity is he?

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MrIMA44 @DPJHodges Is Sunak ethnically English?

[zenman @silentzenman]

@DPJHodges Yes if noticing that different ethnicities exist makes you racist then yes a lot of them have been hidden and didn’t even know they were hiding

[Visegrád 24 @visegrad24]

More than a hundred British police officers are trying to help the authorities disembark dozens of illegal migrants on the coast between Portsmouth and Hastings.

Protesters blocked the streets in Gosport so they are now looking for others ports.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@tomhfh He is not ethnically English. Can you admit that?

[zenman @silentzenman]

@TheNatGB @RoyalMail What the fuck

[Dan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 @Kingbingo_]

If they try and round up our Zoomer lads to die in a Slavic winter its open season on the establishment.

They must not feel safe anywhere.
If you think you can jail 10 million GenX dads good luck with that you bastards.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@tomhfh He’s not English. Sorry we are taking it back.

[zenman @silentzenman]

@MalikalKinani @RishiSunak How fascinating