Simon

Sales Director, Engineering, UK & EU Manufacturing.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@keebsonx @mattwridley And there it is. When asked for data to back up your claim, you pivot to UK politics and full-blown climate change denial. Thanks for confirming this was never actually a debate about independent lifecycle data, but just a vent for your political grievances.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@keebsonx @mattwridley Calling the ICCT "corrupt" because their data doesn't fit your narrative is convenient, but it doesn't back up your claim. You've been asked for data twice and provided nothing but conspiracy theories. Let me know if you ever find a real study.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@FarmerG59620191 @StephenJBeynon @hools @mattwridley @7Kiwi @LoftusSteve Calling official data "propaganda" and tagging accounts instead of providing a peer-reviewed source isn't an argument. High UK electricity prices are a proven result of our marginal pricing model—expensive gas sets the market rate for all power, artificially inflating bills.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@moontheloon22 @mattwridley Why should this specifically be a personal choice, but other things not? Where do you draw the line? Should there be no emissions regulations at all for example? And who gets to decide?

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@PaulinusOfTrier You would rather a foreign national had £1tn than the UK govt?

What do you think Musk will do with that money specifically for the benefit of the UK?

[Josh Fenton-Glynn MP @JoshFG]

But he was and he didn’t!

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@BrknMan @alittlevincible @mattwridley Correct, I had forgotten about that as mine didn’t need upgrading because it was already 100 Amps.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@FarmerG59620191 @StephenJBeynon @hools @mattwridley Where are those numbers from? LCOE is measured in £/MWh, not kW. DESNZ data shows renewables—even with grid integration—are cheaper than CCGT. High UK prices are due to gas setting the marginal market price.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@moontheloon22 @mattwridley It is perfectly valid for you to want something that doesn’t make practical or financial sense, that’s why supercars exist!

I have no problem with that, I’ve definitely spent money on some nice cars in the past, when it would have been more sensible to pay more off the mortgage!

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@keebsonx @mattwridley Dismissing independent research bodies as "biased" is an easy way out. If you've done the research, share the data. Which peer-reviewed lifecycle studies show it takes 6–8 years for a modern EV to break even?

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@FarmerG59620191 @StephenJBeynon @hools @mattwridley The reason for that is the way that energy market in the UK was set up. Renewables are cheaper, look at Spain for example.
Starting with Thatcher we had multiple govts with absolutely no industrial strategy (free market economics) which is almost unique, hence high energy costs.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@FarmerG59620191 @StephenJBeynon @hools @mattwridley As you have just pointed out, price of 2nd hand EVs is actually lower than equivalent petrol cars, which makes the case for them even more compelling.
The evidence building up now is that EVs are more reliable & do higher mileages than petrol cars.

https://t.co/zjADcTKElT

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@keebsonx @mattwridley No, I’m not ignoring that at all. It seems like you have out of date information.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@saskquo @mattwridley Valid questions, Sharon. The data comes from peer-reviewed lifecycle assessments by organizations like the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) and the AVERE (European Association for Electromobility).

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@saskquo @mattwridley

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@keebsonx @mattwridley Always open to learning more. Which specific parts of the running costs do you think are misunderstood?

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@FarmerG59620191 @hools @mattwridley The co2 is way less for EVs even when the electricity comes from fossil fuel generation.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@DJRil86 @GrumpyLofty @mattwridley Hydrogen cars too expensive as they use 3x to 4x the electricity as BEVs. Also total lack of infrastructure.

Fact is, we do have the infrastructure for EVs.

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@DJRil86 @GrumpyLofty @mattwridley

[Simon @SimonM_72]

@DJRil86 @GrumpyLofty @mattwridley EVs have been around for long enough now, many with extreme mileages.

ICE cars definitely do get changed due to failure of expensive components!