@SteveDavies365 …the edges, some mercantilism but there doesn’t seem a lot of commitment behind the full project to sustain this for very long. This could be the death knell of nat con as “second party” status for all we know.
@SteveDavies365 Yes I agree. The nat con/globalism axis is the overarching one today. As an impulse. In the cultural sphere. On some social issues. I just don’t see these econ policies having a strong social base or a wide enough political bench. I mean lip service, sure, some changes around…
@SteveDavies365 …political actors are controlled by economic elites but whether or not, after a load of pain, they could even achieve their plans. This is a big test of the autonomy of politics and limits of political will.
@SteveDavies365 …the fact, as you point out, that this project won’t work means that in some real sense it is economic structures and economic *laws* that are still determinant or upstream of political possibilities. Surely a really important question underlying all this is not whether or not…
@kilovh Feyerabendians always say this. They go to such lengths debunking myths about science on the level of epistemology but then say I’m not saying all comers are epistemically of equal value but never say how they are not all of equal epistemic value. Maybe stop doing epistemology.
@CrispinSartwell An early favorite of mine. I grew out of him long before I gave up on Marxism, but still had some admiration for some of his work. In fairness his totalitarianism wasn't really noticeable until later. Or at least I didn't see it until later. Maybe I wasn't reading closely enough.
Love how philosophers decide that actual socially instituted political structures that sociologists study are fake but their moral beliefs, which far less than 1% of the humans who have ever existed believed, are objectively real facts.
Imma be real, I don't really think political legitimacy is an actual normative thing. Like obvs I grant that some institutions, persons, or groups, are actually treated as if they may legitimately wield authority. But I think it's always fake, a silk glove over a fist.
@Lasermazer@buffsoldier_96 Well, I do think social systems can be organic but the point is that they exhibit emergent behaviors and it's best to avoid metaphor and specify how it works. So long as you don't say the ant colony wants this or everything that happens happens because the ant colony needs it.
Sometimes a New Yorker cover is just a New Yorker cover. Treating it like an inkblot is just revealing your own symptoms and making it into a device to command a week's worth of moralistic podcasting.