@DragonflyJonesI@L94132757@BlackPatriarch1 The 1% doesn't answer the premise you jumped in to defend. The claim was that women can always opt out. A woman raped in a ban state with no exception didnt want the sex nor the pregnancy, and legally can't choose abortion.
That's the counter asked for, Which part did she choose?
@DragonflyJonesI@L94132757@BlackPatriarch1 Im a guy, i think if even one baby is born of rape its a tragedy and we should all do our best to prevent it plus id rather aborted fetuses than completely unwanted and unloved children being born or women attempting abortion on themselves...
@L94132757@Shakizula@BlackPatriarch1 Three of you now. One says male obligations are inescapable, one says everything is a choice, and you say the exit is free and legal. You cant even agree whether exits exist. I said 0 for both and you are doing the work for me.
@Shakizula@BlackPatriarch1 Every item on your list is a cost, not an obstacle. Homeless, jail, bum all are prices. Your sides whole claim was that men cant exit. You've just confirmed they can, expensively. Same as women. 0 for both as I said.
@L94132757@DragonflyJonesI@BlackPatriarch1 "Don't get pregnant" good one. so rape victims chose it? Ban states allow no exit regardless of how it started. That's a legal obligation imposed by other people, not biology. It's the exact thing you say doesn't exist.
@goonerman94@DragonflyJonesI@BlackPatriarch1 Congrats, you just picked lane (b). "Less of a man" is social cost the same currency as "bad daughter" for skipping elder care. You've conceded the standard my list runs on. His original premise is dead good job.
@DragonflyJonesI@BlackPatriarch1 If it means can't physically exit, men have none either and your whole post is dead. If it means exits at a cost, here's your list: elder care, second shift, kin-keeping, safety admin, and pregnancy in ban states. Pick a lane.
@BlackPatriarch1 You said men live with inescapable obligation and women don't. Checking the men half isn't whataboutism, it's your own claim. You just don't like the result.
Also menstruation isn't a facet of human activity. Nobody performs it. You're calling a bodily process an obligation.
@BlackPatriarch1 Fuck it, I'll bite. Name one thing men can't walk away from. Jobs get quit, kids get abandoned (much more than women lmao), drafts get dodged. All escapable at a price which is exactly how you dismissed women. Its 0 for both so wtf are you talking about?