@mathanginobili so it’s not what they’re thinking doing or saying it’s really just their ethnicity that you have a problem with? idk what to tell you. congratulations that’s nazi shit
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme@grok if you’re interested his basic take is yeah we ethnically cleansed palestine because we had to if they wanted a jewish state (which is 100% true)
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme@grok yeah the historians who dismantled the israeli myth of it’s founding were jewish and israeli. this happened in the 80s. catch up
@forces_at_work and it can be particularly attractive to leftists because as postone said anti-semitism presents and functions as a fetishized anti-capitalism
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme@grok why should they? arab jewish people were a pretty small minority in that area until a bunch of colonialists who did not live there moved in with a plan to create an ethno state and displace and remove them from the land their families lived on for centuries
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme@grok and syrians and lebanese and jordanians also have overlapping identities. doesn’t change the fundamental right of a people living on the land being able to govern themselves. your distinction without a difference hairsplitting does nothing to change this basic fact
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme it “came in contrast” with zionists as soon as a bunch of people who did not live there came with a national project to create an ethno state that did not include the people who currently lived there
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme distinction without a difference and the fact that you think palestinians are the exact same as jordanians sounds like a skill issue for you
@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme even at partition palestinians were a solid majority of the population and got considerably less of the land. do you think that’s the deal the palestinians should have taken?
@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme the principle of self determination is that the people who live in an area have the right to govern themselves. palestinians were the ones living in that area
@YBLUVR696969@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme as i said you’re factually wrong about palestinian nationalism. it goes back as far as most nationalisms. you’re just repeating hasbara cuz you’re a dipshit
@9add10is@ShitlibSupreme i’ll go slowly. im telling you that a majority of countries existing today did not have any sort of national identity before like 1850 and only a few actually had a state that was controlled by the people who lived there until decolonization in the 20th cent