@matthieumcneilc@RuloMTG@fireshoes There is a lot of friction in similar scenarios with orim chants for example in games where you want to chalice X=1 like burn or prowess. Is still worth it.
@matthieumcneilc@RuloMTG@fireshoes By the time you wrath if you had a chalice opener your opp probably already wasted all their 0s to create pinacle tokens or something and the damage is already done. You can also bounce it with teferi but is not a must, is just another tool to counter their explosive starts.