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@sweltercro83518 Iron fist value is from abilities during his ult. So him not using any and losing is fine. Like imagine if a gambit player making something like this where they ult and only use primary and get killed by white fox. Literally everyone would be agreeing that gambit was bad there.

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@rstiles03 @RauKnows He was talking about white fox and legit many people could agree she just was not strong on release (not saying she’s trash just not strong)

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@salmoona_ @der_fod84486 Yeah but he isn’t good at the game he plays like I believe he lost to hulk and he raged so hard he had a grudge on hulk because of it 😭

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@RauKnows Torch will be hard because of fist and hulk but as long as you have a support look at him you will be fine

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@RauKnows Peni and torch. They both plant down areas of damage that they can’t push through and torch can dive and kill quickly. But also you will need another heavy poker like punisher

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“Red vs Blue button” I DONT CARE I JUST WANT MY FOR YOU BACK.

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@PrinceDemo_ What about little Mac

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@RauKnows I’m pretty sure people only cloak ult after it because tanks and dps will stay in front of the pun ult expecting a cnd ult so it literally goes full circle.

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@WesdensMR @necros_ow Besides from invis and gambit the supports are very killable. And even if invis is taking a survivability nerf next season. So gambit is probably the only one going to be “invincible” which even if he is a perma ban character in general

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@kevile_ @necros_ow As of right now absolutely it’s hard but the cd change and his spin kick change may make him able to kill supports easier. I do agree bp as of this current moment yes bp is ass but he MAY be an issue.

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@raka_mvp @shawtiepie_ @LukeTheNinjaMR Brother dive is meant to be a team oriented play style otherwise it’s just a meta where you get 1 person to kill the entire backline leaving 0 heals. Needing 2 dives balances the fact that having no healers in this game is a guaranteed death.

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@YusqyInc @AlwaysLington @SlushiiPls The dash reset on kill will just enhance his gameplay. Literally the basic spear spear dash dash only sucks because you are left with no dash. So now if you get the kill you now have spin kick and dash which either allows easier escape or a continuation of his dive.

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@fritts_tyjhan @AbbyAZK They still got hit and again with 3 support your healing gets stolen leading to less ult charge

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@KitasanMR These are fake

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@fritts_tyjhan @AbbyAZK Healers got their ults mainly through healing which got a huge hit here and then also healers got more of a hit to passive ult gain. So for 3 support where your healing is getting taken by 2 other people your ults will take forever allowing characters like mag to counter ult.

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@OrangeJellyo Yeah that’s tragic 😭

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@s_xcellence Sorry this a lot of yap

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@shmeechy @RauKnows @jstordinaryguy1 @Dorkwitz @LilyButWeird Why is that? Dps play for trades on higher value characters (aka supports or poke) and also you need to engage better so that you can kill when there is pressure in the front line. If people are peeling hard you had a bad engage or they are on top of their supports just for you.