@minxalotforz@KG_Len You can, but my position hasn’t changed. My issue isn’t that you’ve cited them; it’s that I don’t think they establish your conclusion as explicitly as you claim they do
@minxalotforz@KG_Len Yes, interpretation matters. What I disagree with is treating one interpretation as if it’s the only possible reading, especially when the text doesn’t explicitly state the conclusion you’re drawing. 😌
@minxalotforz@KG_Len It was a genuine question, not an attempt to dodge your points. Context matters, and I’ve seen several scenes interpreted very differently once the full dialogue is included.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len Out of curiosity, have you actually played Fate/Extra and CCC yourself, or are you relying on screenshots and excerpts posted by fans
@minxalotforz@KG_Len There’s a difference between interpreting subtext and considering context. Saying “this line was said to persuade BB” is describing the scene’s context. Saying “therefore Gilgamesh is canonically bisexual” is a further conclusion that not everyone has to accept.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len I’ve cited profiles, story dialogue, and explicit statements. You keep citing the same scene. At this point we’re not debating Gilgamesh anymore we’re debating Hanafuda.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len This is exactly what I mean by explicit characterization. “Laid with women” doesn’t require me to infer anything it states it directly. Your examples require interpreting subtext or tone to reach your conclusion. That’s the difference I’m pointing out.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len Yes, dialogue is characterization. But there’s a difference between explicit characterization and inferred characterization. “My preferred type is a noble maiden” is explicit. Interpreting sarcastic or ambiguous dialogue as proof of sexuality is an inference.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len You’re asking me to prioritize your interpretation of a few scenes over Gilgamesh’s own explicit statements. I don’t find that convincing.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len My evidence isn’t based on isolated scenes. It’s based on Gilgamesh’s overall characterization, the official materials describing his preferred type, and the fact that none of them explicitly state he’s attracted to men. That’s why I find your interpretation unconvincing.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len We’ve reached the point where we’re repeating the same two scenes. You interpret them one way, I don’t. Unless there’s an official profile or statement explicitly describing Gilgamesh as attracted to men, I don’t think we’ll agree.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len It’s from a comedy minigame in Hollow Ataraxia. I’m not saying it can’t be canon, but I don’t think a joke scene is stronger evidence than Gilgamesh’s official character materials.
@minxalotforz@KG_Len Not everything needs to be in the materials. But when the materials specifically discuss Gilgamesh preferences and only mention women, that’s relevant. If attraction to men were an intended part of his official characterization, I’d expect it to be mentioned there too