Classic Sonic Deconstructed

Breaking down Classic Sonic's physics, mechanics, bugs, and oddities (Genesis originals). Expanding the Sonic Physics Guide.
Ran by @LapperDev

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

How classic Sonic works. A summary thread.

Slope physics and collision will be explained as briefly as possible.
Sonic games work with 3 methods of collision. Hitboxes, Tiles, and Solid Objects. These will be explained separately.
#SonicTheHedgehog #SonicPhysicsGuide

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

You can SLIP PAST the first puzzle in Marble Zone.

You do this by jumping right next to the Spike Trap because Sonic's position has to be directly over an object when you jump on it otherwise you won't land on it #SonicTheHedgehog #SonicPhysicsGuide

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@MoneyAlt800 🤔 Interesting

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Conclusive! But which approach is better:
- A comprehensive video series covering every single aspect of the physics guide visually. Every mechanic, value, and collision.
OR
- Focused videos, on the aspects of Sonic collision/physics that would benefit most from visuals

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Imagine: Sonic Physics Guide but in video form, fully explained in detail, Pannenkoek style.

I think it'd really help people in creating a 2D Sonic (or any 360 platformer) framework from scratch, and also be interesting generally too.

Thoughts? Considering it ~

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@big_throwaway Rough examples
https://t.co/iJ94DpTXwE

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Very rough examples:

Comprehensive would be a full visual counterpart to the physics guide, covering EVERYTHING to the finest detail. The videos would be in the best order to teach everything and lay a good foundation.

A video could = an entire SPG page!

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Focused would be slightly more concise videos in any order, which focus on specific concepts which can benefit from a visual explanation, likeeee "How Sonic Lands On Ceilings" for example.

More casually watchable but it might be less educational and without laying a foundation.

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Very rough examples:

Comprehensive would be a full visual counterpart to the physics guide, covering EVERYTHING to the finest detail. The videos would be in the best order to teach everything and lay a good foundation.

A video could = an entire SPG page!

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@LapperDev Who you callin nerd, nerd

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@ShyGuy_Mike Where more focused would consist of videos that dive right into the meat of it on specific subjects, and not necessarily in a specific order - which may be more interesting to casually click and watch but a bit less informative.

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@ShyGuy_Mike For sure both approaches can cover it all. The difference is the order and the intention. If I'm explaining everything, I would like to give a lot of establishing information and build an understanding from the ground up, like the guide does. This would be better for "teaching"

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Naturally, I want to cover everything🤓 but I thought I'd ask what sounds better!

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Of course, any approach could eventually cover everything.

Or you can suggest how you'd personally prefer it to be formatted.

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@GenuDribu64 My sonic video be like

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Imagine: Sonic Physics Guide but in video form, fully explained in detail, Pannenkoek style.

I think it'd really help people in creating a 2D Sonic (or any 360 platformer) framework from scratch, and also be interesting generally too.

Thoughts? Considering it ~

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

How classic Sonic works. A summary thread.

Slope physics and collision will be explained as briefly as possible.
Sonic games work with 3 methods of collision. Hitboxes, Tiles, and Solid Objects. These will be explained separately.
#SonicTheHedgehog #SonicPhysicsGuide

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@Kenseiden Any 2d platformer where you run on walls and ceilings

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

How classic Sonic works. A summary thread.

Slope physics and collision will be explained as briefly as possible.
Sonic games work with 3 methods of collision. Hitboxes, Tiles, and Solid Objects. These will be explained separately.
#SonicTheHedgehog #SonicPhysicsGuide

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

If you try landing on the corners of objects in the prototype, you might still notice *some* slight slipping if out too far over the edge, but this has a different cause and isn't the same issue, just a slightly similar result.

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Funfact: This doesn't work in the prototype as the landing-on-object slipping behaviour wasn't a thing.

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

You can SLIP PAST the first puzzle in Marble Zone.

You do this by jumping right next to the Spike Trap because Sonic's position has to be directly over an object when you jump on it otherwise you won't land on it #SonicTheHedgehog #SonicPhysicsGuide

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

I do now believe the object edge slipping was a deliberate choice, likely to solve an unknown problem. It just had some unfortunate side effects and made objects less consistent with terrain

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@Rrose80149 Are you referring to this 1px misalignment?

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

You can SLIP PAST the first puzzle in Marble Zone.

You do this by jumping right next to the Spike Trap because Sonic's position has to be directly over an object when you jump on it otherwise you won't land on it #SonicTheHedgehog #SonicPhysicsGuide

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

Unintentionally, Sonic's X position needs to be above an object to land on it, otherwise he will slip over the edges.

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

@CyanHyprPsychic yes

[Classic Sonic Deconstructed @SonicPhysics]

In Sonic 2, Slicer's blades/claws always seem to move in just the right way to hit you.

Well, they are CHASING you.

Their blades follow Sonic, accelerating towards his position, with a decent maximum speed! They do this for 2 seconds before falling down.
#SonicTheHedgehog

[Sunny @KoopTroopBeach]

@SonicPhysics Can you do one of the infamous enemy, the Slicer? Please