mind you eleni has always been like that with adil even before she found out he was her father she's always been a little bratty with him and that's literally been part of their dynamic from the beginning it has nothing to do with esme or her supposedly teaching eleni how to treat him and it's funny how everyone found it cute when eleni copied adil's behavior towards esme but now that she you think she resembles her mother suddenly it's a problem and esme needs to correct her??
عندي ملاحظة على بعض مشاهد اسما وإيليني، حلو إن إيليني بدأت تكتسب بعض الصفات من أمها وتقلدها في تصرفاتها، لكن بحكم صغر سنها وقلة خبرتها، صارت تكتسب بعض الأمور اللي المفروض ما تكتسبها، يعني في بعض المشاهد صارت تتعامل مع أبوها بنفس الطريقة اللي اسما تتعامل ��يها مع عادل وتستخدم نفس مصطلحاتها.
وهنا لازم نفرّق بين العلاقتين، اسما من الطبيعي أن تناقر عادل وتتخانق معه بهذه الطريقة لأنه زوجها، لكن إيليني علاقتها فيه مختلفة تمامًا، فهو أبوها وليس زوجها.
أتمنى أن اسما تنتبه لهذا الجانب وتوجّه إيليني، وتفهمها أن مو كل تصرف أو أسلوب تستخدمه مع عادل يناسب طبيعة علاقتها بأبوها، لأنها من غير قصد ممكن تنقل لها بعض أساليب تعاملها معه. وإيليني علاقتها لسه جديدة مع عائلتها، ومن الطبيعي أنها تتأثر بتصرفات اهلها وتتعلم منهم، سواء في تعاملها مع أبوها أو أمها.
وأنا شخصيًا أحب المناقرات والعفوية بين الأب وبنته، وأشوفها تضيف ل��افة لعلاقتهم، لكن أحس صار فيها مبالغة شوي في بعض المواقف.
أتمنى ينتبهوا لهذه النقطة، خصوصًا أن علاقتهم في ال��داية كانت مبنية على الحنية والاحترام والعفوية البسيطة بينهم.
وإيليني أكيد مع الوقت رح تتعلم أكثر كيف تتعامل مع أهلها وهم كيف يتعاملوا معاها، بس هم كلهم محتاجين وقت، لأن كل شيء جديد عليهم💔
orels using that scene to claim oruç wanted to tell the truth and esme stopped him is so funny because all it proves is how little eleni's feelings mattered to him eleni was constantly crying to him about how she couldn't feel hicran as her mother he was l there when they guilt tripped her for suspecting hicran wasn't her mother yet he never once told esme that eleni was suffering and deserved to know the truth he was perfectly fine keeping quiet so his mother wouldn't face the consequences of what she did but when esme said they need to tell adil why iso married fadime and he realized that adil might do something to his brother suddenly he wanted to tell the truth about eleni instead not because he couldn't bear seeing her suffer but to protect iso
oruç söylemek istedi esme susturdu dedikleri sahnede esme YARIN ELENİYİ BUGÜN DE FADİMEYİ SÖYLEYECEZ diyo oruç da tamam eleniyi söyleyelim AMA İSO VE FADİMEYİ SÖYLEMEYELİM diyo
i never said you said that i'm pointing out the double standard in how esme is expected to consider adil's feelings and do what he asks while her own fears and concerns have been repeatedly dismissed you're criticizing her for continuing to wear a scarf she's had since childhood when adil hasn't even explained why he wants her to throw it away
people are willing to lie and cover for esme even the furtunas meanwhile adil has enemies waiting for the slightest excuse to send him to prison and we don't even know the context of her shooting behçet yet but y'all are already calling esme hypocrite also bringing up her shooting şerif and stabbing hicran as if she didn't shoot şerif to stop adil from doing it himself and as if hicran stabbing wasn't literally an accident y'all love ignoring context just to hate on esme
esme has spent eps explaining her fears to adil and begging him to understand her only for him to keep doing whatever he wants but somehow it’s uncomfortable that she won't listen when he tells her to throw away a scarf she's had since she was young without even giving her a proper explanation? so esme is expected to respect adil's feelings without question but he doesn't have to do the same for her?
O kırmızı yazma fragmanda da esmenin boynundaydı adil bu kadar rahatsız olmuşken ben esmenin takmaması beklerdim.Takmaya devam etmesi aşırı rahatsız edici yani esme açısından kötü şirin vermiş sonuçta.Evlatlık hikayesini üzerinden döndürecekseniz neden böyle yazmaya başladılar ki
instead of having oruç actually apologize and take accountability for all the times he's wronged esme and eleni they're gonna make him secretly protect them so when the truth comes out they will feel guilty for misjudging him, he'll get his little hero moment and everyone will forget he was the reason they stopped trusting him in the first place istg these writers are going to hell
timur tried to kill his loved ones but the furtunas have done worse and still haven't paid for half of it yet adil is teaming up with oruç the same man who keeps protecting them from facing any consequences just to bring timur down?? and on top of that they're hiding the whole thing from esme and eleni knowing damn well how much his betrayal hurt them and what happened to all that preaching about no more secrets?