@EmirKhaalid@saifuldeen929@Abuubadahh Ironically, the only undisputed deception in the entire exchange is that the caller presented himself as a sincere questioner while concealing his real purpose and recording the conversation for public consumption. That is an established fact, not an assumption.
@EmirKhaalid@Abuubadahh What I find interesting is that instead of discussing the substantive issue, the conversation keeps returning to surprise citations, authenticity disputes, and isolated quotations. If the objective is to reach the truth,
@EmirKhaalid@Abuubadahh Interesting standard.
When a scholar says "I don't know," you call him ignorant.
Had he spoken confidently about something he did not know, you would have called him reckless.
So what exactly was the correct answer supposed to be?
@EmirKhaalid@Abuubadahh Saying "I don't know that report" is not a refutation of his entire methodology. It is simply honesty.
Had he pretended to know it and started speaking about it without knowledge, that would have been far more blameworthy.
@jado375@tracemarklost Imam ibn Wahab, may Allah have mercy on him, a student of Imam Malik, said, 'If we had written down on tablets every time Imam Malik said 'I do not know,' they would have been filled.'
@EmirKhaalid@Abuubadahh Abdullah ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with them, said: "Knowledge is of three types: A speaking book, a passed-down tradition, and saying 'I do not know.'"
@Senpaiw3 The Shaykh admitted when he did not know a specific athar. Had the caller been honest about his disagreement from the start, the discussion would have revolved around usūl and evidences, not cherry-picked statements presented in isolation.
Boasting over a recording obtained through false pretenses is not the intellectual victory you think it is.
The Shaykh was honest enough to say "I don't know." Were you honest enough to state your real purpose before pressing record?
@Senpaiw3 Instead, the caller portrayed himself as someone facing doubts and seeking guidance, only to reveal later that he was gathering material for a public gotcha clip.