@TwkLeo@TheSlimeRain @AxisLuti @sappholives83 dawg. i'm going to need you to *really* keep up here. i need you to hold on and really focus.
this chart
is not meant
to depict
percentages.
@AxisLuti @TheSlimeRain@sappholives83 no it actually depicts a perception that only the tiny extreme on one side of the spectrum is bad. people believe that the men on this extreme side are bad, while everyone else is good
@AxisLuti @TheSlimeRain@sappholives83 you're fucking killing me, man. no, no it doesn't.
"this far end of the spectrum is thought of as evil and the rest as good, but there are problems and bad behavior that people seem to be ignoring."
again, man, this is a spectrum. not a percentage graph. i need you to get this
@CreekCreek6@EPM106 i don't believe we have a choice but i don't believe we are born with it either. despite trying, we haven't found a "gay gene" of any sort. humans are complex.
@AxisLuti @TheSlimeRain@sappholives83 again, i really have to ask. do you know how a spectrum works? do you know what it depicts? you understand that it's not meant to measure percentages, right??
@unripebabysis@shotacunnysseur we can differentiate fiction from reality, and drawings are fiction. anyone can differentiate a drawing from the real thing, so what makes this bad? where do you draw the line and say "okay if it's *this* realistic then being turned on by it makes you pedophilic"
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis surely you don't think that loli porn artists do what they do as a way of depicting the way predatory people they don't like view children, the way vladimir nabokov does. and surely you don't think that lolita was written to arouse people.
@unripebabysis@shotacunnysseur i explicitly said that i am aware that my experience is not universal. i am also certain that my experience is not unique.
@unripebabysis@shotacunnysseur it would be deeply confusing if you were unable to differentiate the intent behind or presentation the work of nabokov and artists of sexualized drawings of children. although this assumes you've read or are aware of lolita.
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis if the fictionality of it is what makes it benign, then there shouldn't be any problem with photorealistic/relatively realistic drawings of the same thing, should there? as long as attraction to depictions has no correlation to attraction to the real thing.
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis part of the way art reflects reality is the presentation of certain topics. lolita and loli porn both depict child abuse, but they are miles apart from one another. they reflect different perceptions and thoughts of the same thing.
@unripebabysis@shotacunnysseur i'm not asking this as a trap question. i try to be as charitable as i can, so i'm taking your word for there being a total divorce of what is depicted and what is being depicted. the question isn't rhetorical.
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis i know my experience isn't universal, but i also know that my experience isn't unique. i brought it up not to say that everyone is this way, only that many are. i'd venture to guess that most are, depending on how engrossed in fiction and/or anime a person is.
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis there is plenty of fetish porn that depicts only dynamics. petplay porn involving people, not animals. ageplay porn involving adults, not children. bdsm role-play is about dynamics and power exchange, whereas i am singularly focused on bodies here.
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis surely you can't feel that this is entirely divorced from reality, existing only in a vacuum. that the commonality of it in a world that sexualizes children so constantly is simply a coincidence. art does reflect reality very frequently, if not always.
@shotacunnysseur@unripebabysis i'm not trying to accuse you of being predatory for consuming what you do. what i'm asking is why there is a specific fixation on depictions of children. why somebody labors for hours looking at references of children's bodies so they can draw them sexually.