@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ Calling pedophilia harmless is a dangerous path to push.
Yes it is correct that a mere thought does not constitue a crime and is of itself harmless
But that ignores that people with these thoughts have much higher rates of offense than those without
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ It is obviously very clear you have done a ton of research into this, but some of the conclusions you draw are not based in your sources and supported with research and do not serve the intended goal of preventing child sex abuse
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ I don’t care if your research says some of them aren’t sick. The nature of this issue dictates that help is necessary.
No serious person in their right mind would ever encourage a pedophile to not get help
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ So?
The fact that pedophilia cannot be changed is actually a stronger case for why the need help. To ensure they are properly handling their issue and maintain a healthy emotional state
Do people with incurable illnesses not seek treatment?
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ I’m not saying attraction is action, and that’s exactly why they do need help. To prevent that attraction from turning into action.
If someone is frequently having suicidal thoughts would you say “some need help, some don’t?”
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ They are sick people and they all need help. I’m not saying they’re a monolith, but the very nature of who they are requires getting help.
That’s not a testament to them or saying they’re evil, it’s simply an acknowledgment of the serious nature of the issue
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ What are you even trying to fight for here anyway? I’m giving you an out to say yeah they need help
But you think what, that they don’t need help? That being a pedophile is natural and harmless and there’s nothing wrong with them?
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ I do not care. No one in society cares. There’s two options: get help or go to jail. This isn’t something you get to just live with freely
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ I never said it was a necessary benchmark, I said there is an inherent increased risk. Yes some abuse is committed by people not attracted to children, I’ve said so myself before
And no, if that were the case according to your research many more would be offenders
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ No, there is no choice. They need help, all of them. They are sick and they need help.
If they refuse help they can either rot in jail or be killed. You do not get to walk the streets free as a pedophile “accepting your attraction”
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ But even so, are you against the idea that these people need help?
Pedophilia is a disorder, a mental illness. These people are sick and you’re trying to say what exactly? That there’s nothing wrong with them and they don’t need help?
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ That does not matter. The very nature of the attraction creates an inherent increased risk
The fact that apparently so few of them offend is attributed to a society that is repulsed by them, not a society that accepts them for who they are
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ I don’t care if they’ve currently law abiding citizens. Everyone is one, until they aren’t.
Their innate attraction poses them as a significantly higher threat than you and me.
If someone had an innate attraction to blowing up schools, would you not say they need help?
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ Killing people who are inanely attracted to hurting the most vulnerable members of our society is absolutely something a just society does.
The attraction is not harmless, it poses a serious threat to children. Those people need help and you’re feeding their problems
@GhollowayMA94@thatguywithcat@Zufrieren_ So once those people realize they have that attraction, they need to either get help or get shot
I can’t even comprehend how you could have an issue with this unless you yourself are a pedophile
This is like the least controversial opinion ever