@souvik_dolui@Xixi_2328857214 Yes, so one of the Rafale didn't see the PL-15 coming.
But others did, right? Cuz multiple PL-15 wreckages were found in parts of Punjab. Maybe other PAF pilots forgot to use this technique?
@klihhv98@wartrophy_414 Where did I say MKI isn't as capable as Rafale in terms of A2G?
But will it give equally potent sensor capability & availability? Nope. Rafale is a proven platform. A2A combat isn't air warfare.
@drqasimkhan80 In short your response is slow, hollow & with no surprise.
And in case you have a f'ed geography like Pakistan, you can't even launch missiles from ground properly.
@drqasimkhan80 TELs can easily be detected by modern GMTI sensors/satellites. If you enemy has good enough ISR capabilities, you're done.
Not to forget time. It will take weeks to move a BrahMos regiment from Sikkim to Punjab. Surprise factor is gone too, enemy SAMs have more reaction time.
@Indicdoctor@wartrophy_414 BS that air-to-air combat is all that matters. That wasn't the assigned objective, hence nothing on that front.
Give it the task, get it. As simple as that. Delivery ko payload drone Murid ke UG bunker me kardeta tab toh jets ki zarurat he nhi thi.
@klihhv98@wartrophy_414 IAF didn't position S400 in Amritsar. Even if it did, Rafale or any other jet was anyways not going to engage the Pakistani AWACS flying +300kms deep other than S400.
@klihhv98@wartrophy_414 The job assigned to it was hit terror camps in a measured, calibrated & non-escalatory nature (not my statement, read PIB press release).
How do you launch a non-escalatory attack? Attack military targets? A2A is Pฤki BS cuz airpower is more than that.
@drqasimkhan80 Summary of Pakistani aand forces since 1965. Joint-ops, objectives, victory, these words are mythical for pฤkis.
All they do is statpadding & lose. Pilots wanting personal glory, offer no support to troops fighting on ground.
In the end, everyone moves to bunkers.
@AatishKapoort@wartrophy_414 And shove the 'shot down' claim up your arse if you can't prove it.
Don't bring the videos of M88 engine or burning wreckage in Bathinda. Have seen those videos couple of times, none of them proves a 'shoot down'. Loss of airframe is a different thing.
@AatishKapoort@wartrophy_414 Dropping Scalps while entering enemy MAR & a heavily jammed environment? Yes, it's a tough job. Not as easy as armchair generals make it sound.
As tough as making a 4.5 gen jet (which armchair import bahadurs should understand).
@Napster0000@RishabhPandey5@mr_boringfellow Abe ma*arxhod, samne bhi teri gฤnd maar leta l*de. Moral policing kya dalle? Clip ka2wo ki tarah clip kaat ke narrative banayega toh koi tere ko call out nhi karega?
@Napster0000@RishabhPandey5@mr_boringfellow Abe l*ndfakir, TMKC. My first I'd has been restricted hence I'm using this I'd for 48 hours.
Tune gฤnd kuch dekha hai dalle, clip ka2wo ki tarah clip katna he ata hai tere jese dallo ko.
@drqasimkhan80 Summary of Pakistani aand forces since 1965. Joint-ops, objectives, victory, these words are mythical for pฤkis.
All they do is statpadding & lose. Pilots wanting personal glory, offer no support to troops fighting on ground.
In the end, everyone moves to bunkers.
@drqasimkhan80 PAF in 1965 :
Pew pew A2A combat. Soldier on ground dead.
PAF in 1971 :
Pew pew in air, soldier on ground dead.
PAF in 1999:
No AAM hence no pew pew, soldier on ground still dead.
PAF in 2019:
Pew pew in air, dead again.
PAF in 2025:
Pew pew in air. As always, DEAD.