"To your town the terms and fates,
My Father gives of many states.
Be not anxious or afraid;
The bladder will not fail to swim
On the waves that compass him."
I had a vision last night, it came to me in a dream. It said that the Communist Mothership will descend under the North Star at the Far End of America.
Marx and Engels were heavily influenced by their reading of Feuerbach's "The Essence of Christianity" and borrowed key elements from it. It's literally a key part of the history of how Marxism came into existence.
Even if you want to be purely cynical about it, most people in the US are still religious, so understanding what they believe helps with framing communist discourse in terms that appeal to them rather than alienate them. Having a condescending attitude about it serves zero purpose whatsoever.
@Bolislaw69@QGorilla43710@neojedjdp Exploitation isn't the only material condition that exists. Even when Communism is achieved people will still have problems and be involved in material relations. I don't think there's much evidence for the idea that that's the primary reason people believe in God either.
There's no argument in this that addresses anything that I said. It's just a repetition of your unsubstantiated theory about religious belief going away once exploitation disappears, which even if it were true wouldn't disprove anything I've said, nor would it disprove the content of religious beliefs themselves.
@Bolislaw69@QGorilla43710@neojedjdp Yes, I understand that your faith in this proposition is very deep, but you haven't given any evidence or addressed the argument that both God and spirituality can be viewed through a materialist lens.
@Bolislaw69@neojedjdp@QGorilla43710 Why are you quote some random slop theory like this is supposed to prove something? Is this like your dogma that you just repeat since you're unable to make your own argument?
@Bolislaw69@QGorilla43710@neojedjdp You can have a materialist conception of God and spirituality. The idea that spirituality will disappear because exploitation ends is a theory for which there is not much evidence presently, and much would suggest it's not so simple.
Yeah, I'm aware. It's a question of whether you can actually understand the history of ideas if you think religious tradition is composed of nothing but simplistic "fairy tales." Marx and Engels didn't have such a view and they considered Francis Bacon and Duns Scotus to be the forerunners of materialist philosophy in European history. What I said is true. Marx's view of dialectics and criticism borrows many aspects that are inseparable from the history of Christian thought.
Hegel was a Lutheran who regarded the Absolute Spirit as the philosophical distillation of a truth contained within Christianity. The modern conception of criticism developed in European culture through the long tradition of biblical textual and historical criticism. Atheism itself emerged in a similar way from currents within natural philosophy and theological debates. Both traditions were cultivated for centuries largely by explicitly Christian thinkers before they assumed their modern forms. Atheism is a dialectical development of critical tendencies internal to religious tradition, reconstituted through the autonomous exercise of human reason. Marxism in many ways is a continuation of the Christian iconoclastic tradition and its critique of idolatry. You can't really reckon with the history and genealogy of these ideas unless you can understand these traditions and the cultural developments they underwent that allowed for them to occur in the first place.
If this is how you read the received cultural traditions, you can't think in a seriously dialectical way about history. Marx's view of religion was infinitely more sophisticated than yours. The way you use Marx to justify your smug superiority is no different from the way backwards Christians use the Bible.
@neojedjdp@QGorilla43710 It's more that I don't think you're capable of interpreting any deeper meaning from it. Even if you don't choose to subscribe to the views yourself. You can only project your own arrogant stupidity onto it. Like I said, functionally illiterate. Which is, in fact, a you problem.
@neojedjdp@QGorilla43710 The problem with most atheists is that they're functionally illiterate with regard to the actual meaing and historical significance of religion, much less fairy tales. "Dismissing religion" is a meaningless concept for edgelords. Marxists think dialectically.
The people dunking on this are really demonstrating why anthropomorphism is so stupid. The fact that an LLM needs to be connected to environment to take action is relevant to assessing the security of a system, claiming it’s ‘intelligent’ is not. https://t.co/ma8QAKnhdC
"This lecture will be divided into four parts:
1. Lord of the Rings and the Antichrist
2. The Chronicles of Narnia and the Antichrist
3. Dune and the Antichrist
4. Harry Potter and the Antichrist"
@ItsLulu_7 That post is not saying people who can't do that are disposable. That's really a stretch. This argument is mostly a phantom of its own making. Telling people it's good to care for their own health is not calling people disposable and pretending it is, is extremely disingenuous.
Narrative tools are, of course, about ritual, and ritual is what builds bodies. Here, the religious trope of building the body of an entity, of bringing it into "reality," becomes an industrial capacity. The creatures that are produced double as idols onto themselves.