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I’m rewatching the #LUFC game.
Kilman’s foul on Stach is ridiculous.
The ‘he got his shot away’ so the defender is at liberty to hit him (in this case with such reckless force that it causes ligament damage) - is one of the worst myths in football.
VAR deemed it a ‘natural coming together’.
Ally McCoist said: “I’m happy that’s not been given a foul”.
Literally 5 minutes later, Lukas Nmecha dives in to try and tackle Disasi.
Disasi ‘got his pass away.’
Nmecha didn’t actually touch him unlike the foul on Stach.
Ally McCoist: “He’s definitely late, I wasn’t sure he caught him.. no he doesn’t catch him, but that’s not to say he doesn’t fall awkwardly or land awkwardly.”
VAR called it a reckless challenge.
Result Nmecha got a yellow card - Disasi totally fine obviously because he wasn’t actually touched, and didn’t fall awkwardly.
So - if it’s in the outfield and a pass and you get your pass away - then get tackled - even if it’s not actually bad - it’s a yellow card.
But if it’s in the penalty box - and you get your shot away - then it’s a ‘natural coming together’ - even if you get injured by your opponent.
That is the very definition of inconsistent.
And it doesn’t help when the analyst is parroting a myth that has permeated football.
Stach’s ankle was caught in between Kilman’s legs - that’s how Struijk broke Harvey Elliot’s ankle a couple of seasons back.
Kilman slid in with excessive speed and force with a disregard for the safety of Stach - the very description of a reckless challenge - endangering an opponent.
It should not matter whether a shot or pass had been completed.
It should not matter whether it is outside the box or in the box.
It absolutely should matter if there was any actual contact or not.
In one case a guy has ligament damage the extent of which we do not know but it could be season ending - you can’t tell without a scan.
In another case the player was not touched at all - but gets an Oscar nomination for exceptional acting in a supporting role.
This is why 75% of fans hate VAR. It’s not because referees don’t need more help - they do.
It’s because consistent rationale and logic isn’t being applied, while myths are being perpetuated- and it doesn’t help when respected media figures with massive platforms are helping to spread the myth (VAR have the broadcast feed as well as their own footage).
@pizzapat246@StokeyyG2 That wasn’t a booking either, Sarr was diving all over the shop, he ran into Bijol, not sure why Johnson wants sent off for 3 worse fouls
@Bern_lufc@TomCarnduff They weren’t excellent, they shithoused a 1-0 win with anti football and 1 shot on target! We weren’t great either but don’t flatter them
@markgoldbridge Ref was terrible all game, kept getting little decisions wrong, blatant corners, etc and was only letting the fouls go for one team 🤷♂️
@jermainebecks83 Totally agree, what made it worse was the penalty he gave to Brentford for a much softer contact only to be bailed out by the VAR offside call!
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