Steve Manton

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 I know he is saying that there must be a contradiction (this is actually because the real system must be physical, which cannot manifest the purely metaphysical)

The issue is that you as the critic are the one with the burden of proof for the specific contradiction you find

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Your burden of proof that the contradiction actually exists, don't just say it is said, logical prove there is a real contradiction

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Yes the metaphysical is the perfect belief, the words are interchangeable, the real question is what physically manifested system actually matches the real one and only ideal

The ASE is much more defined that the general word capitalism

ASE is the objective view your asking for

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@GigaBasedDad Actually that's kinda exactly what I'm building... in development

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 By anyone non ironically capitalist, otherwise they wouldn't be capitalist

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 What does Hayek say?

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Would you say that what Adam Smith and co wrote is different from the Austrian School of Economics?

If so I'd say what i define as ideal capitalism would likely be Austrian, but i need to research further
thank you for prompting me to be able to question this

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 For example the Austrian School of Economics

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 But more importantly you are ignoring any real actionable solution (trying to imply, but the wrong solution)

Metaphysically the correct solution would by definition be capitalism

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Ok I give this physical approval

It completely ignores the metaphysical though

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 ?

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Capitalism is

But thats a formal idea

The Austrian School of Economics is what I hear is its best definition

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Communism is intentionally contradictory

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 When I say ideal capitalism, it must by definition be whatever the only system would be that would have absolutely no contractions

Communism has no need for consistency, it's really just intentional destruction

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Not my definitions, I'm going of their objective definitions from the very words of their inventer

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Interesting you seem to be implying that capitalism and communism are separately perfect.

Especially because they are different this must (in terms of the ultimate ideal) be illogical.
A and notA cannot be the same thing

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 And communism as anti-perfect exactly how Mark's explicitly defined its purpose

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 Not the ideal metaphysical

Look up how the forms work

Physically sure, but whenever I say perfect or ideal or absolute it must always be metaphysical and not physical

[Steve Manton @SteveManyon]

@George461818980 @303kemf @Gnome4308 The truth is only the truth, call it bias and technically, but another way of defining bias is whatever is not true, and not bias is whatever is true