Andrew Stoeberl

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@BaT_MaN_23 Done.

[Andrew Stoeberl @Stoebs_22]

@jackmcfcpriv__ @rawdogmillionar My university recently sent out alerts about an active shooter. Turns out it was just a guy verbally threatening people in an office building on campus. Campus alerts are done for liability purposes, they are not to be taken as legal or reliable evidence

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@victoria9355287 @AFpost The “victim” is apparently on the side of the “rapists” too since in her own words she wants “stuff like this to become more common”

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@Novarcharesk3 @ruthdelioncourt I disagree: https://t.co/eQaB6Rm0jY

[Andrew Stoeberl @Stoebs_22]

@ekotoblast @asgaronean1134 @God_Questioner Just because God knows what we’re going to do with our free will, does not mean we are not freely making the choice. I can predict what flavor of ice cream someone is going to get if I go with them enough times, that does not mean I control their flavor choice

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@TailingLoop66 @TradeWithSpiff @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky That would probably solve most of it, yeah. Still some predators out there tho, but it would certainly be easier to identify them if we all collectively agreed to be sober and chaste. A bit too much to ask from our society at this point unfortunately.

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@TailingLoop66 @TradeWithSpiff @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky Of course!

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@TailingLoop66 @TradeWithSpiff @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky Robert I love you brother but I don’t think that’s a fair leap. He said “too” which implies neither party should have been there doing what they did

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@TradeWithSpiff @TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky I don’t think he fails to see that, I think he just hesitated to say it out loud. Understandably he probably puts a premium on men protecting women and so he is naturally more upset about the men’s failures. It may be a blind spot, but it’s a well intentioned one.

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky I have seen women get taken advantage of as well, and it is very upsetting when that happens. I certainly understand the protective instincts of a father. And I would level the same criticism of men who save all their vitriol for the woman, and fail to criticize the men.

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky Completely agree with you

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky I forgive them equally as well, but I fear that your silence about her and condemnation of them is a demonstration of partiality, which Paul warns us about in his letters

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky I am no better a person than anyone involved in my mind. I’m sure many of them regret what happened, and I hope that the lawsuit is dropped, they all turn away from their particular sins, and trust in God to steer them right.

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky I agree. And when I say that I condemn the men and her, I hope you know that I am not putting myself above them either. I have never involved myself in something like this but I am no stranger to sexual sin and to lying for my own gain. I hope all of them turn to Christ as well.

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky By remaining silent you are condoning them, or at least showing that you view her actions as less condemnable

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky By not saying a word about her until you’re forced to, you are tacitly showing her forgiveness which you refuse to extend to the men

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky She is sacrificing these men at the alter of her reputation, and you say nothing about her conduct.

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky And this is the problem: you think that because men need to “hold ourselves to a higher standard” we should hold our tongues when someone attempts to bear false witness to protect herself, which is the ultimate display of pride and vanity

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky …isn’t a prideful and vain attempt by the woman to cast herself as somehow morally better than them. Of course the men should never involve themselves in this kind of thing. But only one party here is pretending they’re above the others.

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@TailingLoop66 @mkeBucks11 @JustBotBecky Of course not. Their behavior was degenerate and wrong. The woman was also degenerate and wrong, and now in her pride she casts herself a victim and them the perpetrators. You cannot say “regardless what the woman did” as if the whole reason we are having this conversation…