@superfan983@UsagiKaede1 This card is restricted in Vintage because of how incredibly powerful it is in that format, and theres an entire 400+ page book written on using this card. I think you're severely underselling it
@LoganMPierce1@joelaremagic No, the entire card is just templated the way this wouldve been done back in the day. The oracle text is still the final and canonical text
@djballsVEVO@BasedDeckDept Rollercrusher Ride doesnt do anything for Hearthhull itself because it says "each opponent loses 2 life" which is _not_ damage, therefore it wouldnt be ampd by Rollercrusher Ride
@cream_puff_love@DackFayden07 Gemstone Caverns pregame, untapped land T1, Seething Song -> 2+ Faithless Looting discarding 3 phoenixes, or anything along those lines
@BambooEarpick@nestapendragon I know you asked for "popular format", but there is a community format called Value Vintage thats picking up in popularity! https://t.co/MKpvb9uJe2
@_SPECTRE8@ldntbutiiwii@WeldBoy13 @BillieDAmati Token copies of a creature also copy their mana value. There are way more effects that do that than just offspring, such as Rite of Replication, Twinflame, Miirym etc
@Erikamatsu76@InioAsanoFR Its an old card from 2012, has seen lots of play in decks such as Izzet Phoenix and more. Its not a commander card imo https://t.co/B5x6CJUNkE
@GenericEdBoi Youre a 50k fed infernus who farmed camps the entire time, thats why Vyper doesnt have any of those. You have very little teamfight participation, hence only 4 kills 3 assists, why would Vyper counterbuild for someone who spent the entire game in camps?
@BenOfThePeople@GenericEdBoi Vyper will have a harder time getting the souls to afford ap rounds if you're not handing her kill souls on a plate by not buying bullet resist, use your brain and stop talking like a bottom