Au #Ivantill donde
Till se confiesa a la chica que le gusta dejando una nota en su casillero.. pero ¿ese era el 3 o el 4?
O donde por error Till termina declarándole su amor al homofobico de su preparatoria
The way Mizi is projected in this part made me really sick, you can see how dehumanizing it’s for her and knowing that she’s a lesbian doing all this is genuinely disturbing #ZOMSTㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ
@yur1ont0p but what I was saying is we can’t condemn one and justify the other, both had their reasons yet Ivan is treated like a rapist and a gay creep, while Sua is hot, it’s a double standard, I’d rather not do it with either, thats what I was trying to say.
Hey so, if we are gonna point fingers at Ivan for kissing Till non consensually, let’s also do it this scene, yeah, I get why it happened, no, I don’t think Sua’s the worst for it, but it is non consensual, so let’s he impartial and say this is not hot nor romantic. #ZOMST
@yur1ont0p Two points here, even if it’s your s/o, non consensual kisses are still that, noncon, and I said I did get why she did what she did, infect herself so she could die with her
HI GUYSS I do love seeing them being toxic, it’s a nice add to their relationship, im just saying it’s unfair to condemn ivti only, I would rather not to condemn any of them
Hey so, if we are gonna point fingers at Ivan for kissing Till non consensually, let’s also do it this scene, yeah, I get why it happened, no, I don’t think Sua’s the worst for it, but it is non consensual, so let’s he impartial and say this is not hot nor romantic. #ZOMST
@SeaCitrus4 I didn’t said it didn’t had to be excused, much less in Mizisua’s or Ivantill’s case, I do understand where both came from, please try to understand that I was saying is either both or none that should be pointed out by it because that’s a double standard, im not downplaying them
@CAITXCHAG Es una forma de decir que es estúpido señalar solo a uno cuando bajo una mirada objetiva es justo que o se señalan ambos o no se señala ninguno, no es contra los personajes, a los cuales amo, es contra el doble estándar que yo he visto, ¿pero si esa es tu perspectiva? está bien.
@Arminivntiyaoi NONO I GET IT, pero estaba comparando con el discurso contra ivti bc como por uno es hot y el otro es sa y si los ship was apoyas a los abusadores
@CAITXCHAG No estaba buscando eso, lo puse xq desde mi lado de twt la gente solo marca esto como atractivo o romántico, si, estoy consciente de que es diferente, yo misma lo dije, porque actúas como que estuviera diciendo que son unos abusadores o wtv cuando dije que no lo eran?
No I do not hate Sua, I love her very much, and I don’t think she’s an abuser, I’m just pointing out how this can be a little hypocritical from some people
The same as with Ivan, this is a tantrum thrown by not being able to handle being alone without their loved one, it’s codependency, selfishness and obviously a bypass of boundaries in a world where they do understand what boundaries are