Why are "Christian Nationalist" men upset about toppling a Muslim regime?
Weren't they all based Crusader bros like 5 minutes ago?
What changed, I wonder.
@LostMyHats As a matter of fact in point and history, many if not the majority of the puritans and reformers held to exactly what @douglaswils is saying. —This information is easily obtainable through the diligent reading of actual books. 🤷♂️
@Theonomoney My dad became a Calvinist and a paedobaptist in the 1990s because of Doug Wilson. —The primary arguments I used in college (2005/6) to debate Atheism came straight from Doug’s interactions with the new Atheist. —Doug has been in evangelical circles for a while.
What Doug Wilson has accomplished in 2025 is a remarkable testament to ordinariness. He has been able to articulate fundamental Christian ideals from a perspective of national interest and traditional biblical values in the greatest platforms without resorting to demonized conspiracy theories on every conceivable item in the news cycle.
@ZaidJilani Here is the problem: Free speech is an alien concept to Marxism. —It’s not that the left needs to drop bad progressive policies regarding speech…The left will have to let go of Marxism to survive.
If your pastor has not declared open war on the left by now, it really is time to find a new church.
So many pastors in ostensibly conservative and Reformed churches have coddled with the left for so long, they’ve blinded themselves to the reality of what’s happening in our culture. And they blind many who listen to them, who are lulled into a false sense of complacency.
The culture war is no longer really right vs left with “good people on both sides.” The culture war is now Christ vs. chaos. It’s good vs. evil. It’s truth vs. lies. This does mean there is no sin on “our side” nor does it mean there are no confused “good people” on the other side. It does mean that if you’re paying attention, and you aren’t a moral imbecile, you will see there is no moral equivalence between the two sides, ideologically and practically. There is no longer a soft middle ground or a third way between the two sides.
A pastor who just had his eyes opened to the true state of affairs will be years behind in discipling his people. But better late than never.
There is no way to be salt and light in this cultural moment without firmly and decisively opposing the left. Christian leaders who fail to see that should not be trusted. They should be rejected.
@CoreyJMahler The moment @SlowToWrite said that Jesus would be cursed through Rabab if every single person in Ham’s line was perpetually cursed. #bodyslam
It is not possible to take 16th century Reformational political theory and drop it into an American context unaltered anymore than it is possible to take the law of Moses and drop it into an American context unaltered. We cannot do with the Reformers what theonomists want to do with Moses because when it comes to politics, context matters and prudence is always necessary.
Of course, biblical law should be an authoritative source of political wisdom and principles in every society. And we can certainly learn from and implement certain features from Reformational political theology - their political work is not irrelevant. But the American context is different -- it's different from ancient Israel and its different from 16th century Geneva. American problems call for uniquely American solutions. We have to deal with America as she actually exists in 2025. We have to play the hand we're dealt.
To give a couple examples: The American founders developed a system of limited government, checks and balances, federalism, individual rights grounded in nature and nature's God, etc. We cannot simultaneously say, "the constitution is dead" AND honor our political forefathers. This is one reason why I have questioned the notion of a "Christian prince" in an American context -- a "Christian prince" seems fitting in a European context, but not America. A Christian President, a Christian Commander-in-Chief -- those would be fully American. But not a Christian prince. There's no need for Americans to hanker after European titles that we left behind a long time ago. We should work within the system our founding fathers gave us (and of course that system has provisions for change and adaptation). And yes, I've read Caldwell -- I know we have gone through several constitutional revolutions, and the civil rights regime has created a new de facto order. But even rolling back what needs to be rolled back from the civil rights era has to be done in a way that works with and within our existing institutions.
Another example: White Christian Nationalists will complain that no one accuses Japan of racism for wanting to be Japanese, so why is it wrong for whites to want to have a country of their own? Why is ethnonationalism ok in some countries but not others? But this misses the point, and the problem. American and Japanese history are entirely different. Racial identity politics will always function differently in America than anywhere else. America was multiracial from the days of the earliest settlers. We had black slaves here. We had Amerindians. America has to deal with the race issue differently from other nations because we have a different history. Advocating ethnonationalism here is a very different thing because our national story is very different. And before jumping to conclusions about what I am saying and not saying, I fully believe that we need to enforce our borders and deport illegals, we need to stop anti-white racialism, we need to continue dismantling DEI, we need to bring critical manufacturing back home, etc. But none of those things require us to frame the issues in terms of race. And none of those things will make America monoracial. They are all common sense proposals that serve the good of the nation. Period. Racializing everything is not the way forward. Trump won twice (or thrice), and did so without racialization. In fact, he sought to build a coalition that included blacks and Hispanics, and had more success than any other recent politician -- and that's becausen he knows coalitions are required in any movement if it's going to be successful. The left *wanted* him to do racial identity politics, but he refused. Trump's genius is that he's shown a way forward, a way the right can win. I don't see why some people want to mess it up by making it all about race. "White Christian Nationalism" is to "Christian Nationalism" what "Make White America Great Again" is to MAGA. Conservative blacks often point out that the best way to deal with race in America is to just stop talking about it. And I tend to agree: if we focus on building a *Christian* nation here (as opposed to, say, a *white* nation), the race issue will take care of itself.