@eternalism_4eva@tr_babb@MasterTimBlais don't you eventually just have an earth? I feel like you ought to be able to articulate some aspect of reality that isn't mathematical to disidentify it from mathematical models
@eternalism_4eva@tr_babb@MasterTimBlais to me this feels like an artefact of our incomplete knowledge. models don't resemble their referents because they're incomplete because science isn't finished yet. Metaphorically, if you take a globe, and make it the size of the earth, and turn it into rock and and and...
@eternalism_4eva@tr_babb@MasterTimBlais tbh this kind of makes the tegmark MUH hypothesis more appealing bc you can make the move of "yeah obviously tarski minds are a thing"
@sanyatimar I think you want to get a good sense of their character. In order to do that, you need to see how they react to a variety of situations. And how fast you see them exposed to different circumstances is going to depend on how much you're seeking new experiences with them
@MasterTimBlais curious how you feel about attributing consciousness to bugs? if you don't want to for something made of DNA and nerves like us, it makes way more sense to me to be very skeptical of weirder stuff. I'm more willing to do that than some others seems to be