@Flairehaha Every time I see a clip like this I check for sprint or expedience...and I see expedience fall off the moment you murder. Tell that SCH they are an accessory to a crime 😭
@mane_tank A version of this was suggested early on to ignore timers. Start clockwise from card, drop 1st arrow then follow it to corner or marker for 2nd arrow. It didn't catch on because it make the KB really tight unless you put confetti between two arrow. But SW and NE can still use it.
@KnightsTomboy Yes, u r correct. And the friction came from the WF, which, as u said, is separate from the stream WF, was brought onto the stream leaderboard above the stream teams going for stream WF. Congratulate TBD, sure. But stream audience didn't care about them.
@KnightsTomboy TBD did nothing for the FFXIV community. Frosty is amazing, but he made a mistake in the end. Acknowledging the W1st has happened is one thing and congrats to them, but taking attention from the event by putting them front and center when no one gives a shit about TBD is another.
@FrostyMog Learned some time after this stream Leaderboard changed to "Stream Team World First" and took TBD off, but I'm assuming TBD stays on master list as overall W1st, which is totally fine and how this should be handled going forward. That aside, production and Frosty did amazing work
@FrostyMog "There has been discussion about how to handle the news in terms of the stream to prevent the aggressive feedback from the community that was hoping to see a streamed world first for ultimate. After this race we will..."
AFTER? Bro you could literally clear this up RIGHT NOW.
@Hisoka_Ophion For Ultimate PF, if in my limited off work time to raid I can't get 7 other people to help me reach my prog point, what do I do? B4 sim I was studying the slides like flash cards & watching streams for the rhythm. Is sim a step too far? I mean I am feeling the pain already.
@HIPPO_ff14@darzmork@FrostyMog I don't know enough about what I'm seeing b cause I haven't read into P3 too much, yet. But that's a potential "big yikes" if true.
@darzmork@FrostyMog As a follow up, I have no idea what the context for this screenshot is. If it's like a mechanic where no one should know these spots, yet, then that's sus, yeah. But if it's just someone posting these as a reminder or callout, then it looks fine at first glance.
@darzmork@FrostyMog Bad critique, you can do that. It's the same as acknowledged 9th mans doing VC callouts for the team as they watch them on discord. Now could it be a bot add-on? But they could also just have macros they are clicking.
@Liangyyu I know this is kinda a joke and rage bait, but idk why we keep saying the made up guy that uses AM for their whatever weeks later clear can't be like "damn, sucks the world first team cheated", like bro knows he shit at the game. That's why he ain't trying to W1st.
@ChitaMaca@eysorc@FrostyMog The leaderboard on the site can be correct. NO ONE will care if TBD is listed as the real world first on the website. But keep it off the stream leaderboard. If TBD didn't want to contribute to the event, they can receive their accolades outside of the event.
@FrostyMog Two hour "moment". Bro, get on the stream and stop throwing your casters under the bus. All it takes is an apology to the teams streaming, take TBD off the stream, acknowledge and congratulate their off-stream world first, then push for the cheer for stream-first.
@ILucasK@AliceBreckwith Yeah, but I don't feel like pointing at the overreactions is helpful, because their emotions are still valid and felt by many who know how to properly express themselves. This was all avoidable and can be mitigated, but afaik Frosty is going the silence chat and himself route.
@ILucasK@AliceBreckwith Big fumble from Frosty. Hope he has the humility to take the L and apologize. An announcement on stream and chat cmd to acknowledge would've been fine, but on the leaderboard above all the teams we've seen this week? No. I don't blame these people for feeling disrespected.
@IshuzokuCon@eysorc@FrostyMog People raising $100K and have been cheering stream teams all week care. They don't care that TBD cleared first, but putting it on the board above all the teams chat has been watching progress makes chat confused and toxic, like "who? who is that? is it over?" every 5 seconds.
@MogTalkTweets@FrostyMog Not only does it throw things into disarray and make chat attack itself. The on-stream commentators get thrown under the bus by the oversight that they might even disagree with, but they have to keep focus on the stream and charity.
@MogTalkTweets@FrostyMog Hindsight will show they should've announced this on stream with a note and chat cmd that off-stream W1st has been claimed, but kept it off the stream first leaderboard on stream. Hard to keep chat civil when it's on the board so ppl ask about it every time they tune in.