@brandondataguy@cjmaddison Sometimes I think (hope) articles like this are published as clickbait, because making people mad and marvel at your stupidity gets a lot of "engagement." But that may be wishful thinking
@dysclinic On an individual, psychological level, sure, we may have to adapt to the possibility of never getting better. But if these writers stopped to think about it for even a moment, I don't think they'd actually want me out of the workforce forever, much less me x 4 million
@dysclinic And the magnitude of disability among working-age people caused by this disease makes "let's just call this the new normal and adapt" a bad call, not for us as individuals, but for the society we're not participating in or contributing to as much as we previously could.
@InflammaSean@exceedhergrasp1 "experience"?
Perhaps not ideal bc most aren't researching the subjective experience of the thing, but the thing is an experience some humans have.
"phenomena they have no experience of"?
@LGrisaru @chrisdancy@ziibiing@AutSciPerson We know the electronic record is often incomplete or wrong. It's only as good as the person inputting the data, and that's...us
@AlexJohnLondon@rinireg@itaisher I think I'd be more focused on the possibility of P being in some sense pernicious, or being used for some pernicious purpose, than on P being false.
It could lead me to deprioritize the promotion of P or time/energy spent on P-related matters, while still believing P is true
@PutrinoLab@tuppersquares@dysclinic Inpatient care is conceived of (&paid for) as for pts who need things that can't be done in an outpatient setting, w little regard for the actual availability of the outpatient services. The barrier isn't just perception of LC, but the entire structure of modern hc systems
@PutrinoLab@tuppersquares@dysclinic You might be right that that would be the best approach, but it's just not the sort of thing our healthcare system is currently structured for, for any illness.
@ZacharyGrinDPT@sunsopeningband Most patients probably do stand to benefit from some kind of intentional movement of their muscles and joints, & doing more challenging movements in the future if they happen to gain the ability to do so. But the researched GET protocols are not appropriate or realistic for many
@ZacharyGrinDPT@sunsopeningband My understanding, as a non-specialist, is that "graded exercise" is a general concept in rehabilitation and exercise science but "Graded Exercise Therapy" in the ME/CFS space is a specific protocol that is wildly unsuccessful in patients meeting a rigorous case definition
@Allisonisme1323@AhmadRehanKhan @_mooncube @sulmoney The individual reviewer doesn't, I don't think, but the insurance company doesn't have much reason to keep reviewers on the payroll who approve "too much".
@exceedhergrasp1 I'd be happy to be wrong!
To account for gaps between theory and practice, I'd be curious what ED clinicians say about this. What they would do with a vignette of a severe/very severe ME patient & if that's different from what theoretically should happen, what the barriers are.
@exceedhergrasp1 Iirc a lot of the special edition articles were from the UK & this might work differently in the NHS
But here I'd be not at all surprised if that process leads to "you need several GI tests before enteral feeding & have to do them outpatient bc no indication for acute admission"
@exceedhergrasp1 & it's been a while since I've worked in acute care so workflows may have changed. But my expectation would be even with a GI consult visit in the ED, actually initiating feeding would require either admission or outpatient f/u (depending on their sense of urgency/certainty)