@FlowerFadez@Olasejoe I am sorry, but every case we have is 100% consistent with man made gods. We can't actually talk to your god and validate it exists or what it wants. Exactly the situation we would be in if its also a fictional being.
@dave_uncensored A year ago I "wrote" a novel with AI. Was not able to do it in one pass, had to break up the chapters, then try to consolidate consistency errors across them. I imagine the newer models could do a great job.
@w_bitterman The fact that adding "god said so" with no way to confirm it mires a lot of people in a lot of potentially false positions. Because they can't back down after adding that.
@Olasejoe Needs an explanation, then offering a likely fictional explanation are not logically tied together. First presumes we are owed an explanation, second pretends you have one.
When I was 19 and newly married, with a baby, we wrote a series of checks for Christmas. All told 12 or so checks averaging 10$ purchases. I went in the field, and my wife went to the ATM, taking out the ATM balance without checking the check register. Each of these checks bounced, with a 35$ fee from both bank and the retailer. Was that the bank and retailers extracting something from me? Or me paying for my wife's dumb mistake?
@JudgeMathers@Jacksonsrule I agree, and in a proper capitalist society, those companies would not have been bailed out, their employees would have found (or founded) better replacements. But we seemingly want a hodge podge mess that can be taken advantage of.
@Thevine_ntwk What if everything you are selling in this argument is just wishful thinking and poetic license? Seems to be that is hard to call wise. Your opposition is saying, we need more than niceties and calling yourself wise for embracing them.
@TrpstrLeonOG Personally, I hope for an ASI solution that keeps human greed and ego out of the mix, so we are not perpetually divided against one another.
@DPadenAkaterry Please show me the scientific evidence that conclusively and demonstrably points to Yahweh, while simultaneously telling me that Yahweh can't be empirically demonstrated to exist.
@TrpstrLeonOG Personally I see a post labor future on its way. I think this argument is going to go away and become a different one of how do we provide currency to humanity for being human.
Thousands of gods were invented by thousands of people. Billions of people have sincerely believed in those gods. Inventing one god gives you the luxury of claiming anything you see validates it. So, the fine-tuning argument is not convincing. What if we are both right? What if Yahweh is one of those thousands of made-up gods and there is a creator nothing like humanity imagined? Your argument does nothing to demonstrate Yahweh exists.