Romans 7:4 — Raised From the Dead and Fruit Unto God
Romans 7:4 is a beautiful continuation of the doctrine Paul established in Romans 5–6. The word “wherefore” means for which reason or therefore. After explaining in verses 1–3 that death changes a person’s relationship to the law, Paul now applies that principle directly to the believer.
“Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.” — Romans 7:4 KJB
The phrase “raised from the dead” takes us right back to Romans 6. Christ was raised from the dead (Romans 6:4), and through our identification with Him, we are to reckon ourselves “alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:11). Paul even tells us to yield ourselves unto God “as those that are alive from the dead” (Romans 6:13).
So Romans 7:4 isn’t introducing a new, disconnected idea. Paul is building upon what he has already taught:
Romans 5: Our headship changed — Adam → Christ.
Romans 6: Our identity changed — dead with Christ → alive unto God.
Romans 7:1–4: Our relationship to the law changed — dead to the law → joined to the risen Christ.
The result: “that we should bring forth fruit unto God.”
And that fruit connects directly back to Romans 6:22:
“…ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.”
We can bring forth fruit unto God because our headship, identity, and relationship to the law are different now. We are not trying to produce spiritual fruit from our former position. We are alive from the dead and belong to the One who was raised from the dead.
New headship → New identity → New relationship → New fruit.
That makes Romans 7:4 almost like the “boom” of verses 1–3: Paul gives the principle, illustrates it through marriage, and then says, “Wherefore…” — now understand what this means for YOU in Christ.
Identity, Self-Awareness & Discernment
As I’ve continued growing in Romans, especially Romans 6–8, I’m realizing that becoming more self-aware has helped me better understand both who I am as a person and who I am in Christ.
But biblical self-awareness isn’t about becoming consumed with myself.
It’s about becoming aware of what is happening within me and then bringing it under the truth of what my heavenly Father has already said.
Romans 6 teaches me to know my identity:
“Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him…”
Romans 6:6 (KJB)
Then Paul tells me to reckon that identity to be true:
“Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 6:11 (KJB)
There is a progression:
I learn the truth.
I believe the truth.
I reckon it true of myself.
Then I begin learning to live from that truth.
Romans 7 has taken that even deeper for me because it has become like a mirror.
I’m becoming more aware of what’s happening inside me.
Why did that bother me?
Why did I react that way?
Was I placing someone under one of my own “little laws”?
Was I expecting someone to think, respond, or behave exactly as I would?
Is this insecurity speaking?
Is there something in me that needs correcting?
Or is what I’m recognizing actually something that requires wisdom and a healthy boundary?
That’s where discernment becomes so important.
Being grounded in my identity in Christ doesn’t mean becoming unaware of what’s happening around me.
Actually, I believe the opposite is happening.
The more secure I become in Christ, the clearer I can see.
I can recognize someone’s behavior without immediately making it about my worth.
I can recognize an unhealthy pattern without hating the person.
I can receive criticism without allowing criticism to define me.
I can examine myself without automatically blaming myself.
I can recognize when I’m operating under a little law while also recognizing when a situation genuinely requires a boundary.
I can have charity without becoming naïve.
I can pursue peace without abandoning discernment.
And I can recognize what’s happening around me without becoming everyone’s tutor and governor.
Romans 8 then reminds me that knowing my identity isn’t the end. I am learning to walk from that identity.
“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”
Romans 8:14 (KJB)
So I’m beginning to see a beautiful progression:
Identity:
What has God declared true about me in Christ?
Self-awareness:
What is happening in me right now?
Self-examination:
Does what I’m thinking line up with God’s truth?
Discernment:
What is actually happening around me?
Wisdom:
How should I respond?
Charity:
How can I respond in a way that reflects who I am in Christ?
This is why I don’t believe growing in my identity makes me blind to people or circumstances.
Identity doesn’t eliminate discernment. It can sharpen it.
When I’m operating from insecurity, everything can feel personal.
But when I’m operating from my identity in Christ, I don’t have to react to everything personally.
I can slow down.
I can examine myself.
I can recognize what’s happening around me.
And then I can respond with wisdom, discernment, and charity.
The more I know, believe, and walk in my identity in Christ, the more clearly I can understand myself, discern what is happening around me, and respond according to God’s truth rather than insecurity or reaction.
That’s what I’m beginning to see Romans 6–8 producing in my life.
Romans 6 — Know who I am.
Romans 7 — Examine what is happening in me.
Romans 8 — Walk from who I already am in Christ.
And little by little, the doctrine continues renewing my mind. ❤️
Take a minute.
One cannot explain John 15:2–6 without the basic rule of Right Division (2 Timothy 2:15). While Damina seems to observe basic rules of interpretation, he himself cuts corners and ends up being creative to force his own meaning.
Yes, it is essential to first identify the target audience, the dispensation, and the theological context of Jesus's discourse.
In right division, this passage belongs to the dispensation of Law and the prophetic Kingdom for Israel, rather than the dispensation of grace given to the Body of Christ (BoC) through Paul.
Observe, a few things here.
Jesus is speaking exclusively to the twelve apostles (minus Judas Iscariot), who represent the remnant of Israel BEFORE the cross, under the Mosaic Covenant, during Christ's earthly ministry to the circumcision (Romans 15:8).
Of equal importance, in the Old Testament, the "Vine" is a well-known symbol specifically representing the nation of Israel (Isaiah 5:1–7, Psalm 80:8).
Let’s briefly exegete verses using key phrases in 2, 4 & 6.
Verse 2
“In me": In the Kingdom dispensation, being "in Christ" meant being a part of the covenant people of Israel who associated with Messiah. It is distinct from the Pauline "Body of Christ" positional security.
”Taketh away": Lets go to the Greek word which is airo, this word can mean ‘to lift up’ or ‘to remove’. In the context of Israel's program, branches that bear no fruit are dead, unfaithful Israelites (like Judas) who are severed from the blessings of the kingdom.
“Purgeth": This means cleansing or pruning. God purifies faithful believers through trials and His Word so they become more productive.
Verse 4
“Abide”: This is a conditional command ("if ye abide"). In the circumcision program, fruit-bearing and maintaining fellowship required active, continuous abiding and endurance to the end (Matthew 24:13).
“No fruit of itself”: Israel could not produce righteous fruit through the law or human effort; they completely depended on their connection to Messiah.
Verse 5
“The True Vine”: True Israel is no longer defined by physical lineage alone, but by connection to Jesus. The disciples are the foundational branches of this renewed, faithful remnant of Israel.
Verse 6
“Cast into the fire”: This is a direct reference to the fiery judgments associated with the ‘Day of the Lord’ and the sorting of the wheat from the chaff at the establishment of the Kingdom (Matthew 3:12, Matthew 13:41–42).
Now consider this further as a believer in Christ TODAY.
* “Loss of Salvation vs. Kingdom Standing”: Under right division, this verse demonstrates that the Kingdom program involved strict requirements of endurance. If a member of the covenant remnant failed to abide and produce fruit, they faced physical and spiritual destruction in Gehenna.
So what I am saying is, to keep the word of truth rightly divided, we must then contrast John 15 with Paul’s epistles concerning the Church, the BoC today:
* No Condemnation vs. Being Cast Out: John 15 warns of being cast out and burned. Romans 8:1 guarantees that there is now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus.
* The Joint-Heir vs. The Branch: In Paul's epistles, a believer is a member of Christ's physical body, flesh, and bones (Ephesians 5:30). A finger cannot be "withered and burned" without mutilating the Body of Christ itself.
* Sealed vs. Conditional: The Body of Christ is sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30), whereas the branches in John 15 must continuously abide to retain their position.
What then shall we say?
John 15:2–6 is a doctrinal instruction for the Jewish Kingdom remnant. It outlines the strict necessity of abiding in the Messiah to escape the fiery judgments preceding the Millennial Kingdom. While today’s believer can extract a moral lesson about our spiritual dependence on God, the doctrinal mechanics of losing one's position and being burned do not apply to the securely sealed Body of Christ today.
Covenants Covenants Covenants!
Am not sure how old this is but it’s good to see some good direction in the biblical truth. However, it’s incomplete.
As long as one hears the gospel of Christ in accordance with 1 Corinthians 15 1-3 and Romans 3 20-23 and believes (accepts) it they become born of the (Holy) Spirit and are baptised INTO Christ. One becomes a member of the THE BODY OF CHRIST. No believer or member has a covenant with God IN CHRIST but it God who is covenant with Christ (in other words God with God).
The Church or Body of Christ or those also called Christians are Christ’s body as He is the head. The body is not in covenant with its head.
Let’s take it a step further… The body of Christ or the Church TODAY is not UNDER THE NEW COVENANT or any covenant for that matter.
Handei tione …
•Romans 5 — Sin entered through Adam, bringing death to all mankind. Even when the law made sin more evident, grace abounded much more through Christ.
•Romans 6 — Because of that abundant grace, believers are identified with Christ in His death and resurrection. We are no longer to yield our members to sin.
•Romans 7 — When Paul describes the struggle under law, he calls it “the body of this death” (7:24), echoing the death introduced in Romans 5. The law doesn’t create death; it exposes sin, and sin works through the members, producing the misery he describes.
•Romans 8 — Christ provides the answer: “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death” (8:2).
Whenever a human being doesn’t know the Purpose of a thing he will abuse it and Plan the wrong things for it.
The church is NOT a social club, an NGO, a government ministry or some human organization. The Church, the body of Christ, is a spiritual body of believers made up of spiritual members. It is a spiritual organism.
The Church doesn’t have and doesn’t need to have all those ‘plans’. The church has the PLAN to preach the gospel of Christ and mature believers in the word of His grace. Its PURPOSE is to prepare the saints for that blessed hope that we have in Christ.
The flesh is an incredible salesman. It will convince us that this time we’ll finally overcome by trying harder, making better rules, or becoming more disciplined. Romans 7 exposes that lie. The law isn’t the problem—sin in the flesh is. The more we trust ourselves, the more our weakness is revealed. God never intended the flesh to produce righteousness; He intended Christ to be our righteousness. That’s why our confidence belongs in Him, not in ourselves.
“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing…” — Romans 7:18 (KJV)
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The moment we look to the flesh to produce righteousness, we discover what Paul did: ‘I am carnal, sold under sin.’”
For example:
“I’ll just try harder.”
The natural response of the flesh.
And then:
“The law is spiritual. The flesh is weak.”
(Romans 7:14; Romans 8:3)
“Self-effort is the way of the flesh. Faith is the way of the Spirit.”
“The flesh says, ‘I need to try harder.’ The Spirit points us to Christ.”
1 Corinthians 2:14:
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God…”
One of the greatest study tools I’ve found is repetitive study. Instead of rushing through a passage, it slows me down and helps me carefully examine what God is saying. It allows me to look at key words, punctuation, grammar, and the flow of the context. Sometimes that means breaking a chapter into sections, and other times it means slowing down enough to break a single verse into smaller thoughts so I can follow the author’s argument for days or even week(s). The goal isn’t simply to finish reading—it is to understand what is actually being spoken about.
Proverbs 2:3–5 (KJV) reminds us that understanding doesn’t usually come from a quick reading, but from diligently seeking God’s wisdom:
“Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.”
The more I slow down, compare Scripture with Scripture, and patiently remain in the passage, the more the context begins to unfold. God’s Word is a treasure worth searching, and careful, repetitive study often reveals truths that are easy to miss when we hurry through the text. (2 Tim. 2:15; Acts 17:11)
Demons? Are you really free?
Deliverance is actually not casting out demons.
The most foundational deliverance verse in the entire Bible was never about demons. Isaiah 61 1 is the foundational deliverance reference in all of Scripture. It says, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because the Lord hath anointed me to preach . . . to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound”.
Jesus himself reads this exact passage out loud in the synagogue in Luke 4, then says, “today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing”. This is Jesus announcing His own ministry and infact is the personification of the very scripture. So if you want to know what deliverance actually means, biblically, this is where you would start. The Hebrew word for liberty is ‘deror’ and the language throughout these verses is Jubilee related to all of Leviticus 25.
To Israel, the year of Jubilee was when debts were canceled and people were restored to the inheritance that was already theirs. This isn't spiritual warfare language. It isn't a system for identifying and casting out demons. It's a legal and economic term for debts being cancelled and inheritance being given back. So when Jesus stands up and says, “this is fulfilled in me”, he's not announcing a ministry of finding and evicting demons. He's announcing Jubilee TO ISRAEL.
The good news is that the debts cancelled and the inheritance is restored. That's what deliverance actually is. It’s not a cession, not a technique or form of warfare prayers. It's a declaration which is ‘proclaiming of liberty’ and even the very essence of the gospel itself. Good news spoken over captives that changes their actual status the moment that it's believed. Liberty to the captives isn't liberty you have to fight your way into. It's liberty already declared, already secured, waiting for you to simply walk into it because you finally believed it was true.
It was about the land already given to Israel, the record already cancelled at the cross, the rulers already disarmed and now Isaiah 61 shows us the same thing was true even before the cross. The proclamation itself was always the mechanism of freedom, not a fight. It's a declaration believed. The gospel isn't an invitation to start a process of getting free. It's the announcement that you already are.
Liberty to the captives. Open prison doors. Today, after the Cross and In Christ - much more than Israel - this is fulfilled. You can simply walk out.
You are blessed!
DELIVERANCE from who/what?
The good news is what sets you free, not deliverance ministry.
Any church or ministry built around the idea that freedom comes through deliverance where you must identify legal rights, cast out demons, break generational curses or get into the courts of heaven will collapse.
The good news of Jesus is this:IT IS FINISHED!
The enemy's already been disarmed. The only thing they have is lies and if you stop believing those lies, you're FREE! You're already free. You are not free depending on the right deliverance methods or after enough sessions finally clear out everything that's wrong with you. NO! you're already free right now through what Christ already accomplished.
John 8:32 says, “you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”. It doesn't say, you'll find the right minister and deliverance formula, then the truth will set you free. The truth itself does the work. Galatians 5 1 says, “it is for freedom that Christ has set us free”. It's past tense. It's already accomplished. Not a freedom that you're working toward through technique or through deliverance ministry.
Deliverance ministry, for all its sincerity, ends up feeding people something that was never meant to be the main course. It keeps people focused on what might still be wrong with them instead of on the one who already finished the work. So it produces Cycles and Dependency and more bondage. The real food, the actual bread that sets people free is the gospel itself.
The revelation of who the Father is (in Christ) and what Jesus already accomplished (in Christ). Freedom is no longer something you have to keep chasing through deliverance ministry. It's something that you wake up to.
You are blessed.
Psychology of the Believer
So what is the progressive nature of salvation?
The progressive nature of the believer’s life is real: mind renewal is real, spiritual growth and sanctification are real. However, the journey is not adding things to the finished work to make it more complete. The journey is learning to believe more fully what has already been declared true and is complete. The ‘being saved’ tense is not an invitation to keep working. It's the ongoing testimony of a God who never stopped.
The transformation and the process are as real as the journey is real BUT the one responsible for carrying it to completion is the same one who started it. The progressive nature of salvation is not about you becoming more saved. It's about you seeing more clearly what has always been true: It's the renewing of the mind to perceive the reality that was fully established at the cross. It's the Holy Spirit taking what belongs to Christ and making it known to you so that what is already entirely real becomes increasingly real in your lived experience.
It's awakening, not achievement. It's revelation, not contribution.
As I’ve continued to think about this, I’m realizing that it ties directly into the liberty Paul speaks about in Corinthians and Galatians. Christian liberty is not a license to live after the flesh; it is the freedom to live from our new identity in Christ rather than under condemnation, fear, or self-imposed laws.
The more we understand what Christ accomplished for us and who we are in Him, the more our minds are renewed (Rom. 12:2). Instead of being occupied with our failures, we become occupied with Christ and the liberty we have as sons and daughters of God (Gal. 4:6-7). This gives us confidence to walk by faith, knowing that “there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 8:1).
As we grow in this understanding, we may make decisions that other believers do not fully understand or agree with. Paul addresses this principle in Romans 14, where believers had different convictions regarding certain matters. The issue was not conformity to another person’s conscience, but being fully persuaded in one’s own mind and doing all unto the Lord (Rom. 14:5-6).
Liberty is exercised properly when it flows from what Paul calls “charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned” (1 Tim. 1:5). Christian liberty is not legalism, and it is not license. It is faith working through love, guided by a good conscience, and motivated by a sincere desire to honor God. As God looks upon the heart (1 Sam. 16:7), our goal is not merely outward conformity but inward transformation through a renewed mind.
Therefore, as long as our decisions are rooted in faith and not in rebellion against God, we can walk confidently in the liberty Christ has given us while extending grace to others who may see things differently.
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free…” (Gal. 5:1)
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.” (Gal. 5:13)
This also connects well with Romans 7. A believer living under “little laws” tends to become focused on self-performance and the flesh. A believer walking in liberty is focused on Christ, their identity in Him, and serving God from a renewed mind rather than from fear of failure. That is the contrast between the Romans 7 struggle and the Romans 8 mindset: not self-consciousness, but Christ-consciousness; not condemnation, but sonship; not self-effort, but walking in the Spirit. As our minds are renewed, the goal becomes what Paul states in 1 Timothy 1:5: charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned. That is liberty functioning as God intended.
God angry or full of wrath to punish you?
Part 1
The wrath of God is one of the most misunderstood concepts in the Bible. Most people understand the ‘wrath of God’ like God is actively and directly punishing people from the outside, like divine retribution or the offended holiness of a perfectly just God striking down those who've transgressed. This picture of divine wrath is so deeply embedded in Pentecostal charismatic theology that most people have never stopped to ask whether it's actually what scripture is really describing.
Romans chapter 1, Paul opens his most systematic theological letter by describing the wrath of God and what he's describing is not God actively striking people down from the outside. Paul is explaining something different three times in Romans 1. Paul uses the same phrase, “God gave them over” (24, 26 and v28). God gave them over to a debased mind”.
‘The wrath of God’ in Romans 1 isn't divine punishment from the outside: “ITS THE GIVING OVER”. In other words, it’s God stepping back from his restraining influence and allowing people to experience the full and unhindered consequences of the direction that they chose.
‘The wrath’ isn't something God does to people from the outside but it’s what happens when God removes the restraint and then the natural consequences of the self chosen patterns are allowed to run their full course without interference. Isn’t that a completely different picture of divine wrath than the one that most people hold? When you understand it correctly it even has enormous implications for how you read Matthew 6 and Matthew 18.
If you read the parable of the unmerciful servant again through that lens, the servant who was forgiven the unpayable debt and refused to forgive his fellow servant was handed over to the torturers until he should pay all his debt. Most people read that as God is imposing a judicial punishment from the outside on somebody who failed to perform forgiveness correctly like God, the angry judge, sentencing the unforgiving servant to torment as retribution for his failure. No!
What if it's something else entirely? What if being handed over to the torturers isn't God imposing punishment from the outside, but it's rather God stepping back and allowing the servant to experience the full consequences of what he insisted on.
Why we have witches in churches.
Part 1
Why does the Bible seem to say completely opposite things depending on who's preaching? One pastor will promise riches, another doesn't while one insists on endless spiritual warfare yet another dismisses that.
So how can one sacred book be used to defend so many conflicting beliefs?
Let’s try to briefly explain this …
There are two primary ways people approach scripture: exegesis and eisegesis. If you've never heard those terms before, do not worry, most people have not because churches rarely teach these things for a reason.
These two approaches shape everything, what gets preached, what gets ignored, what becomes doctrine and what becomes dogma. So how you read determines what you will see, and what you see determines what you will believe.
In the first year of nearly every decent ministry school, students are taught to use exegesis and avoid eisegesis as much as possible. It's foundational and if you want to rightly handle scripture and not become a witch, this is not optional.
Sadly, after graduation, in pulpits all over the world, eisegesis creeps back in, sometimes not so subtly, and eventually it will reshape entire church cultures, particularly in the Pentecostal charismatic movement.
So exegesis comes from a word that means ‘to draw out’. How it works when you approach scripture is that you ask: who wrote this? Who were they writing to? When was it written? What was happening at the time? Where were they? And why did this message matter? You're not trying to make the text say something but you’re listening to what it already said. You're learning, discovering, letting the text speak on its own terms. If we really honour the Bible as much as we say we do, this is what we use.
On the other hand, eisegesis is a little bit different. Eisegesis means ‘to read into’ and is when you bring your own beliefs, your biases and your assumptions to the text and squeeze it into your existing world view (normally influenced by so called MoGs). It's not reading to understand but it is reading to confirm.
Eisegesis skips historical questions, the context and the culture. That’s when things fall apart because you can make it say whatever you want to say.
It was never YOU but THEM…
Often times the most dangerous people in your life aren't the ones that hate you. It is the ones that need you. It is not because they love you but because they want to use you and, you know, there's a darker side to narcissism that is often times referred to as malignant narcissism.
These are individuals that are incredibly charming, persuasive and likable but underneath the charm is a simple question. What can this person do for me? What can I get out of them? To them, people aren't relationships but people are resources. They are doors. Your value isn't found in who you are. Your value is found in what you can provide, your influence, your connections, your time, your attention, your money, your generosity.
You want to know how to expose them? Well, tell them NO! Set a boundary. Become unavailable. Stop solving their problems and watch what happens. Healthy people respect boundaries but manipulative people resent them. The warmth turns cold, the compliments disappear, the interest fades and suddenly, the person who couldn't live without you seems perfectly fine living without you and this is simply because they never needed you.
They needed access to you and the moment that you stop being useful, they don't grieve the loss of the relationship but they grieve the loss of the benefit and that's when the mask falls.
The truth, well, it finally walks into the room.