@remzicavdar@varrogep@wintryhare@eeuoss Sure, but that's only an issue in a minority of niches, startup time isn't really a metric worth optimising for in many many situations.
I'm just for using the best tool for the job - and sure in some cases that does call for a AOT compiled language.
To be honest, this isn’t really what anyone is talking about, anyone old enough can agree with you on that many years ago.
The issue is people who aren’t even old enough to have touched applets are shitting on Java when in reality its performance can rival compiled languages, if not faster in the right hands.
In 2026 it’s probably one of the best bang for buck languages out there with its library ecosystem
Complete nonsense. Types eradicate a whole class of bugs. There's never a truly good reason to not use them. It's not 'token' efficient to not use types. Probably less token efficient as LLM's must grep for all usages of the method and context to assert that it's usage is correct. With types that's no longer needed.
@Malix_Labs Why? It went from not memory safe to memory safe with better typing? That’s literally it. The logic didn’t change? Of course it got better irrespective of the former implementation. There’s nothing to derive about the quality of the former codebase
@ForrestPKnight@dizlexic@perotta@levelsio lol reading comprehension has seemed to decline with all this LLM usage lmao. Your point is valid - indie hacking and enterprise are two different ball games. Anyone saying different is crazy
@t31k0n@vlucas@hd_nvim It’s a 1:1 port. There shouldn’t really be any new bugs (in theory) while also fixing many memory related bugs.
There’s more chance bun has LESS bugs now than more. Such an uninformed argument
There has been plenty of feedback from real people using the rust version on canary’s saying performance is better than zig.
The tests were passing with the zig implementation, yet there were bugs still. What exactly is the difference with the rust version?
No test suite covers 100% of use cases, so I don’t get your point at all. They obviously have enough confidence in enough use cases to merge. Who are you to say this is a bad idea?
@NirBM2@SebAaltonen@awesomekling What is ‘fail rate’? The LLM will make changes until the code compiles, where is the fail?
There’s virtually no reason why rust would have more bugs than cpp, it’s the exact opposite because of the compiler.
what are you going on about
wtf r you talking about. It’s a 1:1 port. The JS tests assert that exposed behaviour is the same. That’s means… the exposed behaviour is the same.
Will there be bugs? Of course. But there were already bugs in the zig codebase, and it’s been vibe coded for many months now already. Such a stupid response honestly
What do you mean? Of course it’s meaningfully better than cpp. Rust prevents a whole class of mistakes. Will it get it right first try? Maybe not, but that’s the entire point of the compiler. Humans don’t write perfect code first time lmao.
No one is talking about video games, for basically everything else your points are kinda invalid
@OneOfTheFruit@senatorbabet Why? 90% of small businesses fail. The odds are very much against you. If you’re good enough to make it over that hump why should you then contribute additionally ‘to society’
The contribution is in the value you’ve created hence why you didn’t fail.
Cap tax is so flawed
@Markus7Red@Lot_Parker@ChrisBarnes3D@_Omarking huh?? I asked `So please, what are you actually advocating for here?` I was honestly waiting to hear a valid point - perhaps im in the wrong im all ears to find out, yet you resort to 5 year old insults?
@memory_prism@harderthanfire@IceSolst The industry IS predominantly 'crappy web app' devs unfortunately. MRI/Aero engineering is *objectively* niche in comparison.
Theres absolutely value in reading compiler output - but for 90%+ of todays engineering - not needed.
@Markus7Red@ChrisBarnes3D@_Omarking People are being paid such low wages because they technically produce so little value. It's really that simple. Paying people more just for the sake of it is pure inflationary pressure with zero benefit. Prices will just rise, leading us back into the EXACT same position