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If a convicted pedophile served his time, repented, and became a Christian, you probably wouldn’t make him a celebrity or let him grift off his conversion. You don’t need a former pedophile to teach you that pedophilia is wrong.
And when you publish pornography online, you risk exposing children to that material. If you are a very popular creator in the field of pornography, I think it’s even more likely that a child has been exposed to your online exploits.
So what exactly makes pornographers-turned-Christian-influencers deserving of celebrity status? Why can’t they fade into obscurity like we would expect the man in my above example would? Do we really need their experience to know that something is wicked?
Repentance is one thing. Platforming and profiting off notoriety is another.
@autocorrect2_0@ReformedSchapp@onegospel2021 Nobody with an IQ above 85 thinks the two of you actually argue in good faith. Any name I called either of you was absolutely merited by your behavior.
Some would call them descriptors rather than mere insults.
@onegospel2021@ReformedSchapp@autocorrect2_0 Dude just shut up and leave again. You haven’t said a single thing worth reading. Now you’re just hitting the buzz words like it does something.
You’re not a serious person.
I don’t think you would tell the truth even if you understood your folly. I can, and have, repeat myself over and over and you refuse to understand. How about I ask you two final questions that cut to the root of the matter?
Does Nala absolutely have to possess a major platform in the Christian community that operates above scrutiny, and does that scrutiny necessarily refute or work against the sovereignty of God?
Please respond in full and I’ll just let it be after that.
@autocorrect2_0@onegospel2021@ReformedSchapp Quit speaking on God’s behalf.
Couldn’t help but notice you only targeted my response to his wicked accusation. You’re a fraud in my book.
@autocorrect2_0@ReformedSchapp@onegospel2021 Well then he can answer these questions pretty easily if he’s such a renowned teacher of the Bible.
I see an awful lot of dodging and bad faith tactics on his part, so he’s not above scrutiny.
@onegospel2021@autocorrect2_0@ReformedSchapp If I wanted a good laugh, I’d inquire about your hot take on reformed theology. For now, just try to properly understand and answer even a single argument in this thread.
You’re making this far more complicated than it needs to be.
Let me simplify it for you.
I believe God can use anyone He pleases. I also believe Christians have a responsibility to exercise discernment when deciding whom they platform, promote, and present as an example to other believers.
Those two positions are not contradictory.
God used Samson despite his flaws. That doesn’t mean Samson’s flaws were virtues, nor does it mean every Christian should promote his conduct as an example to follow.
God’s ability to use someone does not establish that Christians ought to platform them. That conclusion requires an entirely separate argument.
Yes, I’m making a judgment about whether Nala should be platformed under these circumstances. I’ve never denied that. What I reject is your insistence that exercising that judgment somehow amounts to denying God’s sovereignty.
You keep pointing out that my judgment affects the practical outcome. Of course it does. That is literally what discernment is for.
The question is not whether God can use her. The question is whether Christians should platform her in this capacity, given the circumstances and the responsibilities we have toward the body of Christ.
If you disagree with my assessment, then argue why she should be platformed despite those concerns. But stop pretending that believing God can use someone obligates Christians to give that person a platform.
God’s sovereignty is not a command to suspend Christian discernment.
You’re constructing a false dichotomy between believing God can use someone and exercising discernment over whether Christians ought to platform them.
Of course I’m making a judgment about whether she should be platformed. I’ve never denied that. What I’m rejecting is your attempt to equate that judgment with deciding whether God can use her or what purposes He may accomplish through her.
Those are entirely different questions.
God’s sovereignty does not suspend our responsibility to exercise biblical discernment. Scripture commands us to test things, examine fruit, and exercise wisdom. None of that constitutes a veto over God. It constitutes obedience to Him.
And a compelling testimony is not proof of spiritual maturity, just as God’s ability to bring good out of someone’s circumstances does not automatically validate every opportunity or platform offered to them.
I’m not arguing that Nala can never serve Christ or that her past permanently disqualifies her. I’m questioning whether Christians should turn her notoriety into a platform under the circumstances we’re discussing, particularly when public influence can far exceed the accountability and discipleship accompanying it.
You keep treating my refusal to endorse a particular human decision as though it were a denial of divine sovereignty. It isn’t.
The question isn’t whether God can use her. The question is what biblical grounds you have for concluding that Christians ought to platform her. God’s ability to use someone does not, by itself, establish that obligation.
Address that argument rather than attributing to me a position I haven’t taken.