@janecoaston Any non-utilitarian reasons for violent crime you can think of but are not referring to explicitly are probably exacerbated by poverty, so yes you are being that dense.
@FreeRosedark@ArtoriusNZ@atlanticesque Once again, is it surprising that previously working for an immoral company is less offensive than previously committing immoral acts?
@rbmichae80@GregBenage@janecoaston That wasn’t the claim at all. You literally just invented that. Read the OP tweet again. They only say “reduce” crime.
@Tcho76521726@CraftTanner@atlanticesque The nazi tattoo essentially registers with me as “yeah I used to be a chud but changed my views”. That hits a lot different than “yeah I drunkenly raped someone when I was younger but I’ve grown as a person”
@VL2102@rex_the_reptile@yhdistyminen@signulll The spirit of the statement isn’t to say that any lib claim should always be trusted, that is frankly a reading you’d really have to reach to come to. The spirit is clearly more about the badness of trump rather than the truthfulness of all lib claims.
@VL2102@rex_the_reptile@yhdistyminen@signulll It isn’t contrary to the spirit since the spirit is not indicted by the mere existence of prominent liberals who made as-yet false statements about trump. The spirit is to say that libs were generally right about trump being uniquely bad. There is no specific claim beyond that.
@VL2102@rex_the_reptile@yhdistyminen@signulll I was able to understand @yhdistyminen’s tweet fine without concluding that literally all liberal claims about trump were true. I don’t thing that discourse norms are hindered at all by this verbiage, and in fact your pedantry is a real problem in modern discourse.
@TimTrytitle@rowanfornow@impostersyndrum This whole discourse is just annoying semantics. People need to just say what they mean and who they think qualifies as “American”
@TimTrytitle@rowanfornow@impostersyndrum Right, because the term “American” is overloaded to refer to 3 different things here:
1) A US citizen
2) A person experienced in typical American life and culture
3) a set of aspirational virtues and characteristics that are “American”. For some this involves being white
@baldheadfarter@NICOWILLDIE Because most people are able make a distinction between managing who they interact with without racism/misandry. This is why “kill all men” girlies are stupid.
@PenguinVolcano@Noahpinion@xwanyex Youre doing a motte and bailey with the word “American”.
People think you mean “citizen” when you’re actually referring to some set of characteristics or aspirational virtues that most citizens don’t even meet.