@JessPected@barbarismcrit@RevKoka it's entirely possible to treat the fetus as a more than a non-entity, but also not reduce the pregnant person's role to a mere vessel.
in fact most people do. that's why many states and countries are laws for the fetus in criminal or civil law
@RevKoka@barbarismcrit absolutely. I'm just saying it's possible to have the pro-choice view, that supports the principle of choice while not treating the fetus as a non-entity,
@JessPected@barbarismcrit@RevKoka that's silly. the moment of transition through the birth canal is more of a physical shift in location than a sudden ontological change into a being.
@SimiValleyGuru@hecubian_devil Haley is far right extremist. she campaigned on a national abortion ban, and wants to gut Social Security and Medicare. lauded election deniers ect