If the only policing you have done is from the comfort of your armchair and learnt vicariously through officers you see on the TV from that armchair, I reserve the right to disregard your opinions on such matters. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
@robsmit54519473@apoliticaleye@metpoliceuk@HantsPolice In your opinion. The public do have a right to self defence against the police but only if their actions are deemed to be unlawful, which as this stage they havenโt, despite your views.
I have looked at it in slow motion. His hands were always free, because he had them gripped around the Sgts wrist. He then releases them as he's pulled into the road but rather than disengage he advances on the Sgt with, at least, and open right hand to grab hold of him, which as can be seen, he ultimately does. He is bladed on the back, not the neck, at that point by a shield officer who is watching this unfold.
@bones_hearts@PhilCoates9 No it doesn't per se but it might prove to be a consideration of their actions. There we go, that's the best approach, wait until court. Why can't more people go with this approach?
Is it just possible, and of course this is me just guessing, but is it just possible there was some communication between No 10 and he Nowak's about meeting and where it would suit them best and they decided that Downing Street was their preferred option? Could that be possible? ๐ค
I prefer: "A unrealistic perception by the public that policing operates in a vacuum where all things are equal, taking no account that people, locations, motivations and political leanings create an unequal playing field. It is in this landscape that police are expected to create equal outcomes from scenarios that, whilst appearing similar, require vastly different approaches."
I also think James' observations are pretty much on the money.
Unlike everyone else on here, who seems absolutely sure of what's gone on in that initial encounter, I've absolutely no idea. I don't know what was said by either party, I don't know if there was a dispersal order in place he refused to comply with, I don't know if there were threats made by him or not. I don't know. Importantly neither does anyone else.
People are outraged but do sod all about it other than vent their spleens on here. If people are that concerned, make a complaint. Take the time to actually make a complaint. Jesus, the job make it easy enough with multiple options to do so. Any time an officer uses force they have to justify it by writing / typing copious pages of rationale and evidence in case their actions are called into question.
So test them. Everyone who's bleating on here needs to test them. Make a complaint and their evidence will be tested. If they're found lacking, so be it.
@JayDeseret "Ok room, we're going to play a game. If you've ever admitted to a national newspaper that you're a self confessed racist and you think everything everything is "woke", take a knee."
"Just you then Peter?"
He wasn't kicked in the head, it was a knee strike to his upper arm area to try and release his hold on the officer her had grappled to the floor. You can see it if you slow the footage down, his foot remains off the ground and parallel to the floor, as it would when striking with a knee.