you both are correct.
but our perception of science is confined to what we have seen and tested here on earth, which compared to the “infinitely” expanding universe, is likely somewhat incorrect.
we “made up” science based on the limited amount of data that we do have access to.
sometimes I like to think about how much we trust science even though we literally made it up.
like one of these days, we could just randomly discover a new particle, or new state of alternate consciousness that could prove everything we know to be just straight-up wrong.
.@elonmusk main fault is believing that humanity is smart enough to use first principles and think for themselves
The vast majority of humanity (>75%) are complete luddites who will consume any pile of bullshit they are fed
Most are lazy, ignorant, and downright stupid
that’s the scientific approach behind consciousness, where every “human” is just a series of millions of chemical reactions, and if two people were to be wired completely identically, then they would act identically.
but this then brings the question of what consciousness is altogether, such that I can ask the questions; why I am I, and why you are you.
so if two people were to be wired identically, then what separates them “consciously”. scientifically, they are identical, and should have the same “identity”, but that isn’t the case. brings up the idea if there’s something else going on completely, perhaps spiritually.
wtf is consciousness. theoretically, if two people were to wire there brains identically, such that they were complete clones, shouldn’t they be the same person?
@PerezNestares super interesting to think about if there’s a completely unnatural/spiritual factor going into life, influencing consciousness. something that science hasn’t discovered yet and also probably the foundation behind religion.
@PerezNestares i can’t see it being anything other than deterministic. At some infinitesimal level, everything occurs as a chemical reaction, and as far as we know, the basis of these chemical reactions is deterministic.
@Frank_s_tank but nothing too concrete has ever came out of them.
twin dna slightly differs from twin 1 to twin 2, so they aren’t completely identical.