GOC-K priest in Indonesia participating in what appears to be a Protestant prayer gathering, arms extended alongside Protestant ministers.
The same “True Orthodox” who condemn canonical Orthodoxy for ecumenism apparently have some explaining to do.
The "True Orthodox" talk a big game but yet are quick to hit the block button instead of having a conversation. A foundation of sand instead of stone one could say...
@Cr1ng3rZ I am personally incliend to believe he is a saint from what I have read and seen I'm planning to pick up his English translated works soon but I'm curious on everyone's opinion
@The1deaz0ne Good luck man I really hope you find some but it seems all they do is talk and then run when the time to step up comes I really would like to see this debate though
@AritiLeden@OldWest1453@GdalfTheGr33n Calling canonical order “legalism” doesn't refute anything. The canons were established by the Fathers to preserve the unity of Christ's Church. Economia isn't a license to disregard them. If defending the canons is unorthodox, were the Fathers unorthodox too?
@AritiLeden@OldWest1453@GdalfTheGr33n You're comparing language policies under Ottoman rule to the establishment of a rival ecclesiastical hierarchy. They're not the same issue. Disagreeing with Moscow doesn't automatically give Constantinople jurisdiction over Kyiv. Where is the canonical justification?
@AritiLeden@OldWest1453@GdalfTheGr33n You're confusing the authority to grant autocephaly with the right to interfere afterward. Even if Moscow accepts that autocephaly comes from the Mother Church, that doesn't mean the Mother Church retains jurisdiction forever. Otherwise, what exactly was granted?
@AritiLeden@OldWest1453@GdalfTheGr33n Being the Mother Church doesn't give Constantinople perpetual jurisdiction over a daughter Church. Otherwise, what would be the point of autocephaly? Once a Church is granted independence, it governs itself. Historical ties don't override canonical boundaries.
@AritiLeden@OldWest1453@GdalfTheGr33n If every patriarchate can enter another Church's territory and set up its own hierarchy under the pretext of universal jurisdiction, then what is the point of canonical boundaries in the first place? That's the issue with the EP.
@OldWest1453@AritiLeden@GdalfTheGr33n It's insane what he is doing to the church he also is dipping his fingers into Japan rn setting up his own church's of Japan's church