The line is “sexualization and incentives.” That’s what the ad is. Naming it isn’t a reframe. It’s the lane. Three dead children and criminal responsibility is the other lane. I kept them apart because your question glued them together.
You added fame, money, office, hormones. That’s the reframe. Then you missed it, called me crazy, and tried to end the conversation you inflated.
You don’t get to come in, look that sloppy, and then tell me we don’t need to continue. You can leave. I’m not taking attendance from you.
You didn’t answer what I wrote. You argued with a position I never took.
I never said I hate beauty. I never said Sweeney shouldn’t get paid. I never said the ad was worse than Clancy. I never “praised ugliness.” You made that up so you could scream jealousy and dodge the actual point.
That’s a straw man plus a motive smear. You couldn’t deal with the post, so you assigned me a take I didn’t write and knocked that down instead.
I challenged the take that was posted. Naming two different problems is not changing the subject. “Two famous women, which is worse” was your collapse. Fame and money were your collapse. “She’s doing it for herself, not perverts” is your collapse. The market is still a cheap sale to men who want to look. You don’t like that sentence because it includes the buyer.
If you’re going to use ChatGPT to write your rebuttals, set both you and the app to comprehend. Read the actual post before you assign me a personality. You don’t get to miss the argument, invent a motive, and then tell me I moved.
You changed the subject.
I didn’t say Sweeney was worse than Clancy. I said both are an issue. You made it about fame, money, and who got hated so “which is worse” could stay easy.
That ranking isn’t my argument. It’s yours. You collapsed two different problems so one concern could be treated as illegitimate.
I’m raising a daughter. I don’t want her thinking sexual objectification for the visual stimulation of perverts on the internet is a good option in life. I also, equally, don’t want her thinking she can ever kill someone and say a voice made her do it.
Both of those matter. One does not cancel the other. “Which is worse” is only easy if you’re trying to tell women what they’re allowed to be bothered by.
“What’s worse for women: Sydney Sweeney’s ad or Lindsay Clancy?”
That’s the argument. A false dichotomy dressed up as moral ranking. Two different harms get forced into one question so one can beat the other. That’s the whole trick.
Those are not two answers to the same question. One does not cancel the other. They’re equally worse. They are not the same kind of worse.
The ad is the over-sexualization of women. A body used to sell. That is horrible.
Lindsay Clancy is three dead children and a fight over criminal responsibility. That is horrible.
One is culture and commerce. The other is a homicide case. I can think both are bad for women without putting them on the same scoreboard.
This didn’t set women back. This is the same thing that has been doing it for years.
Most of what you listed is a symptom: men are easy to sell with a woman’s body, so we keep doing it. OnlyFans didn’t start that. It harvested it.
No one said she isn’t pretty. It’s a sexual ad, not an innocent one. The damage I’m worried about is what that teaches our daughters.
@BethanyForTruth Reminding myself at that point, that I was no longer living for myself, so it was time suck it up. I brought I child into this world and I had to push through it for her. I woke up everyday and refused to feel sorry for myself and trusted God.