@dom_lucre He is saying that a racist would think Arday is a fraud.
But Arday is a fraud.
So he is say the racist would be right.
So in a way weird way, he is actually defending racists
@BowenBBC When there is a Palestinian terrorist attack, notably on Oct 7th, did you call it a Muslim terrorist attack?
When the Iranian government killed 40k if its own people in a matter of weeks, did you say Muslims have just killed 40k Iranians?
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Not sure there is any value continuing this conversation
You are clearly not going to change your opinion & neither am I
I appreciate your view point but it is not one I can agree with
I hope that one day soon there will be peace in Isreal/Palestine, but I'm not holding my breath
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto The trouble is that the terror tunnels are, obviously, underground. And quite often under schools, housing blocks, hospitals etc.
They are not easy to destroy with precision technology.
If Hamas do not care about their fellow Palestinians, why is the onus on Isreal to care more?
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto According to official statistics from Israel's internal security agency, the Shin Bet, there were 281 severe terrorist attacks and 305 shooting attacks perpetrated by Palestinians originating from or occurring within the West Bank and East Jerusalem in 2022
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto It's simple. It would be suicidal for Isreal to have open borders with Gaza or the west bank.
The 'oppression' happens because of how many wars Arab neighbours have started against Israel.
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto No. I'm saying Hamas said they want to destroy Israel
Hamas are the government of Gaza. They launch weapons at Israel
Israel need to stop those weapons
It is not Israel's fault those weapons are launched from civilian buildings
It's not Israel's fault hamas hide amongst civilians
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto It's quite simple. The war crimes you claim Israel are committing were not happening before oct 7th
It would have ended in days if Hamas surrended But as they promised to it again, and with the support of the Western left/pro Palestinians, Isreal have no choice but to stop them
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto When Israel was give the small bit of land in 1948 the Arabs attacked and lost.
If they had won there would be no Israel. Would you have said that is a bit unfair countries should not be decided by war?
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Isreal already has control of the territory
They won it when the wars started by Arabs to destroy Israel failed
This is how many countries in the world are formed
Egypt had control of Gaza upto 1967 & never tried to create a Palestinian country
Same with Jordan and the west bank
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto There is a reason Israel needs to control the borders and airspace over Gaza.
If they didn't, Hamas would fly airplanes into Israel and attack, similar to 9/11.
If you do not think that is probable, you are very naive
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Expecting Palestinians to not butcher unnocent people is not double standards it's basic humanity.
Israel has to defend itself.
If its enemy swear it will repeat Oct 7th, it is justified in destroying that enemy
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto The camp David Sunmit.
Israel gave territorial concessions, including the establishment of a Palestinian state in most of the West Bank and Gaza Strip with East Jerusalem as its capital
Arafat turned it down.
He never wanted peace. And he preceded Hamas
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Several Kibbutzes were targeted by Hamas on Oct 7th because 'regular' Palestinians gave Hamas specific details of layouts after they had spent time there and were befriended by Israelis.
Hamas is still widely supported despite there abuses of Israelis and Palestinians
@JoGu1802@Barrhead_Bhoy@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Thanks, & I appreciate all your likes
I realise he won't change his view & I'm sure he thinks the same for me
But I actually find it refreshing that the interaction is civil
I have had previous discussions on X with people on the left and they resort to verbal abuse very quickly
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Between 2005 and 2022 Palestinians launched an estimated 20,000 rockets at Israel.
That doesn't sound like a group of people who want peace.
Actions like that are one of the reasons why Netanyahu is against a Palestinian state.
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto The Palestinians have received billions of dollars.
They chose to build an underground network of terror tunnells, they could have put their time and energy into building an economy.
When there education system is full of antisemitism, where us there evidence they want peace?
@owenjonesjourno Because of the lies told in the Media & by paid influencers
You pick & choose what polls you want to believe.
I'm sure most people in the UK don't think men dressed as women should be allowed in female changing rooms, but you would dismiss that & call everyone misinformed bigots
@Barrhead_Bhoy@JoGu1802@StGeorgeofTuf@rich_toronto Israel pulled out of Gaza.
They forcibly removed Jewish settlers and even exhumed Jewish corpses from cemeteries.
I think they did want peace, but that is not going to happen after Oct 7th.
Do you believe the Palestinians want peace?
Is there any evidence they want peace?