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@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar Sure, let's start with the first one. The serpent did not literally bite Jesus on the heal and Jesus did not literally crush the head of the Serpent.
There was a very real fulfillment of this prophecy, but it was not literally as described by the words of the prophecy.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar It's not a clear passage at all. Paul is telling them about things he spoke to them about when he was with them and we are not privy to that side of the conversation. Not to mention it's centered on things around the second temple, not a third future one imposed on it by Dispys.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar No! Reading books within their literary and historical context as the authors intended them to be read is the only viable way to read them. For the prophets that are heavily steeped in poetry and imagery forcing literalism on them is fundamentally flawed.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar It's not in Revelation or Daniel, but imposed on it. The Messiah ends sacrifice by establishing the new covenant in his own blood. There is no Antichrist in Daniel 9. Impossible Dispensationalist, hyper-literal interpretations imposed on OT passage ripped from their context.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar No it's not a "title" it's the vision from earlier in Revelation 5:6: "I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain..." Used as an image throughout the book.
You are demonstrating picking and choosing which elements of the vision you will decide to force to be hyper-literal.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar "Futurist" refers to treating Revelation as primarily about a final seven years of history. And it is born out of ignoring the literary, historical, and immediate context of Daniel 9 to come up with an unworkable interpretation of the 70th week which is then forced on Revelation.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar This is simply not how Jewish Apocalyptic literature works. It can't be both your hyper literalism and allow the intended symbolism. John's original readers never would have read it this way or come up with any of the Futurist interpretations literalism forces upon it.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar The Lamb is on the throne and is literally ruling and pouring out judgements and in control of history. That doesn't mean he is literally a Lamb sending 4 horsemen out or a literal earthquake with blood red moon. These are symbols communicating real truths not literal details.
@_jonbowlin The fulfillment of God's promises about the land is recorded in Joshua 14 - 21. That's 8 chapters covering in precise detail how the promise was fulfilled. The question at the end of Joshua is will they remain faithful to keep their inheritance or not? Judges then answers "no!".
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar Seven is also woven throughout Revelation in its structure of seven sections. Jewish Apocalyptic is known for use of recapitulation of visions retelling the same point. This is not a sequential timeline of the final seven years of history that Dispys impose on the book.
@_jonbowlin@ChristandGuitar Thinking the visions of Jewish Apocalyptic are to be taken literally wherever possible is a complete disregard for its literary genre. These people have zero clue what the book is about. They are just repeating absurd interpretations they've been taught to force upon the text.
@DispyGrace@ChristandGuitar Revelation is a series of highly symbolic, parallel vision about Christ reigning from his ascension until his return. What's clear is that a sequential timeline and hyper literal reading of it totally misses the point. The Futurist reading of the book is hopelessly flawed.
@ProvisionistP@ChristandGuitar Translation, "If you don't believe in the Dispensationalisms two distinct people's of God you must be anti-Semitic." The reality is that thinking God divides people by race is inherently racist, but they often play the race card falsely accusing those who reject their view.
@Maranatha7774 You have turned this verse on it's head. You can't trust God and rest in him. You endlessly search to know the future, to know the time is at hand on treadmill that robs you of a life resting in and trusting in God. The divination you try to justify with this verse is cancer.
@Maranatha7774 Not signs for divination, but "signs to mark sacred times, and days and years." Day 4 sits at the middle of Genesis' chiastic structure stressing the main point about Sabbath; humans entering into God's rest and trusting him which is focus of many sacred days on Jewish calendar.
@MersacciBruni@1984_nate God changing his mind (Ex. 23:6-7) in no way means he did not always know he would do so or that it would not be part of his overall plan. Free agency is only a problem when God is limited by the box Calvinim has him in where omnipotence is the only means of enforcing his will.
@passagenavigate@_jonbowlin So, basically another case of the Calvinist reading their presuppositions into a passage to support the doctrine. To do this they must ignore the corporate language in the passage and the main point that it is God's power that raises us to new life in Christ.