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“It’s just a video, why are you crying?”
the video: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
DEBUNKING THIS GIRLS “OPINIONS” ABOUT ENHYPEN’S TOUR
🚫CLAIM: She states that Enhypen’s touring schedule is not normal for their industry, and they are more overworked than other groups.
✅ FACT: Enhypen actually has less shows than their peers over the same period of time.
👉look at the data and you’ll see that what they are doing is actually normal within the kpop realm. many in demand western bands/artists are on tour every year also, especially when they were at their peak and prime.
Please take the time to read through this info, SHARE IT, and I’ll attach the post that presents all this in detail also.
@95Spirea Thank you 🥹
I need to lock in on my outfits amd my freebie designs with blood saga only a month away 🫠
JOTD (jake of the day) 💐
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WOAH... ENHYPEN GOING NATIONWIDEE? ENGENES WILL GO WHEREVER ENHYPEN IS 🙏
😺 i wonder if engenes would come if we held Blood Saga in korea again? even if it's not in seoul but somewhere else?
😺 would you guys come even if we held it in places like daegu or busan?
WOAH... ENHYPEN GOING NATIONWIDEE? ENGENES WILL GO WHEREVER ENHYPEN IS 🙏
😺 i wonder if engenes would come if we held Blood Saga in korea again? even if it's not in seoul but somewhere else?
😺 would you guys come even if we held it in places like daegu or busan?
No cause fr he really is the whole package 😭
나는 j@ke님 얼굴덕분에 처음으로사랑에빠졋는데 알고보니까 이남자분은 성격도좋으셔서. 주변인들이 여동생에게 소개시켜주고싶은 사람 1위로 꼽는 그런 사람이래....... 설정이너무과다해
INFO | 260609
NI-KI has been selected as the cover star of the August–September combined issue of Men’s Non-no, which will be released on July 9.
As his first ever solo magazine cover, this feature represents an important milestone and proves his ever growing influence as a global artist and fashion figure.
Congratulations to our dearest NI-KI on this well-deserved accomplishment. ❤️🔥
#NI_KI #니키 #ENHYPEN #엔하이픈 @ENHYPEN_members @ENHYPEN
JAY for VOGUE KOREA with Ralph Lauren
Okie im mentally fried. So gonna stop engaging now. Apologies for bringing spam to any of my moots feeds, I typically try to keep my twitter positive. I hope everyone has a good evening (or morning depending where u live) 🥹
Right, its all speculative. Your movement/conclusions are just as speculative cause no one knows what the boys actually think or what will happen. We can only rely on what has been said and what our own life experiences have taught us.
And this is why I said in my first tweet that its a classic case of intent v. impact. Just cause you dont intend to hurt someone doesn't mean you won't.
You weighed the risks and youre fine with that outcome even though its obviously not your intent.
Im not fine with hurting the boys like that, even unintentionally, so for me its an easy no to the boycott.
And you may say that supporting them is hurting them, but they have not said that. They have said the opposite. They have actively told us they want our support. You may not trust their words but I do. I trust their words more than I trust hybe to change.
We see it differently. I know you won't agree with me and I certainly dont agree with you. That's just life.
For someone who doesn't like uneducated comments, she certainly lacks research to support any of her points.
First, I have said it before and I will say it again, using small companies as examples of "success" is a strawman argument.
A 5–10% boycott can severely impact a small company that depends on one group (like the companies behind B.A.P or LOONA), but HYBE is a multi billion dollar conglomerate with many revenue streams. B.A.P was managed by TS Entertainment, which (at its peak) generated around $12,514,475 million USD in annual revenue (figure is adjusted for inflation). HYBE generated approximately $1.8–1.9 billion USD in annual revenue in 2025. Literally they are not comparable.
I have yet to see someone show me an example of a succesful 5-10% fan boycott of a singular group under a massive company (like hybe). In order to make an actual impact, this boycott would need closer to 30-50% participation for multiple comebacks. And it is very clear (from merch sales, ticket sales, streaming numbers) that this boycott has not and will not get even close to 30% participation for one comeback, let alone multiple.
Second, the 5-10% boycott also assumes that Enhypen will not gain any new fans over the next few comebacks to "replace the gap" so to speak. Every year since debut, Enhypen's fandom has grown by at least 15% (some years it was way more). So even if 5-10% fans stopped spending, the 15% growth would result in a 5% net gain. No boycotter addresses this ever. They pretend Enhypen is stagnant in growth because acknowledging the opposite harms their arguments.
Third, by saying that effectiveness of the boycott does not impact her argument is wild. The premise of the boycott, as i understand it, is that the boycott is not intended to hurt the members, but rather withold financial support until satisfactory change has been implamented. However, the effect of the boycott will inevitably hurt the members.
It's a classic case of intent vs. impact. Because the impact of the boycott will cause the members to lose money, the potential effectiveness of the boycott is critical. If you are doing something that you know will have a side effect of financially harming ppl you care about, you better be doing it because it has a high likelihood of being effective. Because the alternative is just cruel, i.e. why would you choose a path that hurts them despite knowing nothing will change?
Ultimately, her video and her tweets are filled with rhetoric but lack substantive support and critical thinking.
I am not going to decide what ppl should do with their money.
Boycott if you want.
Don't boycott if you want.
But dont falsely represent the facts. Based on the numbers, the boycott is not likely to be successful. And the boycott is intended to cause the boys to lose money. I am not saying its malicious or that boycotters actively want to hurt them, but they have to acknowledge the reality of the situation. And the reality is in order for the boycott to be a success, boycotters will need to hurt the boys' finances severely.
hi! i’m sika 🩵
if you’ve seen my videos on tiktok before, yes this is me 😭
made another account to post my videos here too & spread awareness about why we’re boycotting, because I spend way too much time on twitter anyways lol
enhypen is 7 and boycotters are hot ♡
JAY for VOGUE Korea with Ralph Lauren.
Im not saying your arguments dont have merit. Im just saying you arent supporting all of them well. And sure, you may the same thing about mine and thats yout pergoative.
I think you are predicating your entire movement on Hybe's humanity, which historically (as you recognize) has not been great. Hybe has been willing to disband and/or stop investing in groups with large earning potential (see NJ and to a lesser extent, fromis_9 & Gfriend).
Also, I am not sure how much real world experience you have with corporate decision-making so i wont assume either way. But i literally litigate corporate contracts every day. So, yes, some of my opinions are educated guesses based on my own life experience. But I think that experience is pretty relevant. And im comfortable making those guesses.
Companies do not care about people. They care about profits. If the boycott is successful and belift's profit plumets for multiple comebacks, they will pick the most financially conservative path for handling the situation. And given Enhypen's age as a group and kpop fans' short attention span, that option is very likely disbandment.
Im not saying thats going to happen as if its a fact, but you cant state that it definitely won't.
Ultimately the decision to boycott is whether youre okay with that possibility.
For me, no. I am not. The boys have no expressed a desire to disband and I dont want to participate in something that could result in that.
The issue i had/have with your videos is that you were trying to convince ppl that this boycott won't hurt Enhypen. And thats simply not possible if its intended to be successful.
If you can admit youre okay with potentially costing the boys their careers, then thats fine. You do you.
But if you cant admit that, you are ignoring reality and spreading harmful rhetoric, which i am going to call out every time.
No, thats not a flaw in my argument actually. It's a flaw in yours. That's my point.
In order for a boycott to actually get a company like Hybe to act (i.e. change OR dissolve/sell off belift's assets) you would have to suceed a sustained loss of profit for a significant period of time (more than just a comeback) such that Hybe cannot sit back and do nothing.
But if you are able to do that, then you will have hurt Enhypen financially (regardless of intent). There is no way to successfully boycott belift without hurting En's career. En's career is critical to belift's profit. There is no separating that.
If the boycott is unsuccessful on the other hand, then sure, maybe your actions arent as harmful. Though I would argue such actions could still bring reputational harm to En and make brands reluctant to work with the boys. Also, if ur not successful, then that brings me back to the point of why do it?
The fact is there are not a lot of succesful boycotts (even from small companies) to base assumptions off of. LOONA's boycott was successful when it had 70-90% of fans participation. Album sales went down by 97%. There was 73.2% decrease in Spotify streams in 2023 compared to previous years. And YouTube music video views went down by 74.9%. I could have put my range at thayt, but i went with a very conservative estimate instead. Given the size of Hybe/belift, I doubt less than 30% would be effective. You keep claiming you use models but without knowing what statistical assumptions your making, I cant put much stock in those.
Also, when you talk about old vs new fans, youre hiding the ball a bit. Yes, kpop companies prioritize a loyal fanbase, especially for bgs. But the type of fan matters more than the length of time. And thats why boycott statistics and projections will often fail to be accurate. Because there's a difference between a loss of 15% of fans who buy/stream a little vs. 5% of fans who buy/stream a lot. Companies don't want to lose the big buyers/streamers, but new casual fans replacing old casual fans doesn't change much with respect to a company's bottom line.
Do you know how many people participating are heavy buyers/streamers? I doubt it since twt is not a representative measure of participation. So, vasically the models your making are based on more guesswork than fact.
Also, let's say you really do manage to tank belift's profit to a point that hybe cant sit back, how are you so sure that Hybe is going to change?
What past actions of Hybe specifically are you basing that on?
Cause for me, past actions show me that Hybe won't change. They will just disband Enhypen. And I am not comfortable with that as an end result. You might be okay with it and thats your choice.
But you have to be upfront with ppl about the risks of the movement you're advocating for. And one of those risks is Enhypen gets disbanded.
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