@DirkWalstead If God decrees something he is the primary cause of it, that includes sin.
God is sovereign and knows all things but that foreknowledge is not causal. God is still God he can step in time and control what he wants whenever but it is clear he has given us libertarian freewill.
@ccombs55@JustinPetersMin@jwsherrod I understand it fully and reject itโฆ.i had the ultimate Calvinist upbringing.
Strict Calvinist church, school, all I knew was Calvinism. For thirty years.
Do you understand the other perspectives? You should at least be able to articulate the other positions bf denying them.
@HwsEleutheroi@realJennaEllis Calvinism is like the double masked double boosted crowd. So stuck in an echo chamber they cannot even reason with an alternative point of view
@HewittRincrast@HwsEleutheroi@DineshDSouza Correct me if I am wrong, that is not the Calvinist position that God ordains all things that come to pass both good and evil, but is not responsible for evil?
@ccombs55@JustinPetersMin@jwsherrod It depends how you define sovereignty whether they are in conflict or not.
Calvinism has a very different definition of sovereignty than what the word means sovereignty just means to rule as one pleases. It does not mean determinism.
@CalvZynisT If you hold out a gift for your kid, and your kid opens it, does that give your kid some of the credit for getting the gift? Itโs your kids choice to accept or reject the gift but in no way is that taking credit from you the gift giver.
@MAGASouthEastFL@DineshDSouza Sheep are always sheep and goats are always goats
Goats are never given a chance to be a sheep even though the shepherd tells them they can
@doeofthedawn@DineshDSouza Sober gratitude they they are one of the lucky ones, and that they are only the ones that truly understand the word of God.
God ordained for most Christians to misunderstand what the word of God teaches.